Jul.20 Version Update - Discussion

[Norellicus]

You get XP for taking damage as well. The "Damage taken -10% in campaign" ring could actually gimp your XP.

It could also keep you alive.

Yeah, I wouldn't hesitate to use this in the least if I had to go toe to toe with a squad boss, they wreck you hardcore.

[Jaunty]

Not likely. There are a number of them in both of the new zones (assuming these are indeed the Amphipteres which seems obvious at this point). If there is a new HNM, then I'm guessing it would be that Megalotaur... but it's probably just an NM Taurus of some sort.

Ok my bad. Didn't see them elsewhere.

[NeoReign]

From what I can tell, you really won't come close to a 4Hit build on any normal GK (didnt look at Pachi), but on a side note, you can get a 3 hit Ito build

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...toCampaign.png

I was using Futsuno in the calculation with its +8. I had +76 from gear/weaps and +7 from food. Is 117 the amount needed of total store TP for a 4 hit or did I calculate something wrong?

Edit: Nvm I figured out what you were saying seems it still comes up about 9stp short for 4 hit if stp from futsuno is calculated after the base tp return.

[TummieGaruda]

Please dont be wooshing me. Q.Q

I don't Woosh, if you would like to see for yourself it is ROM/222/119.DAT in Altanaviewer. When you load it, the whole field has to zoom out to accommodate the model to the same distance that CoP Wyrms are.

[Gergall]

It could also keep you alive.

Absolutely it could, but 10% damage down is not a lot. You would have to have a very close call to be able to say that the ring saved you.

[Mirya]

From the temporary key items:

Trivia Challenge Kupons
A prize obtained by completing "The Elemental Casket of Mystique and Mystery." It reads, "This kupon entitles one (1) lucky contestant to participate in the 'Vrtra's 64,000,000 Gil Question' challenge at our Xarcabard venue, kupo."

I know this could be nowhere as good as it sounds, but there are still a few mores hours before the update goes live and we can dream til then.

[Kleiner]

I dont see much reason to get any Campaign+Gear that doesnt make it easier for me to live. My WHM can go /NIN, /SCH, or /BRD and cap out exp without even trying. same goes for PUP/NIN or /DNC. I highly doubt you SAM/DNCs have any issues either. just tank a mob and spam waltz yourself.. you're nearly unkillable, maxing your healing exp, damage taken exp, crit exp, likely WS exp, and your damage exp.

[Max™]

10% per hit can turn a battle from being a slow loss to a skin of your teeth victory.

Lord knows some fights on War/Dnc solo are like that, Pld/Dnc with a whole squad of mobs on you as well.

[Plow]

Absolutely it could, but 10% damage down is not a lot. You would have to have a very close call to be able to say that the ring saved you.

If you're capped on exp all the time anyway, there's absolutely no reason you shouldn't be using this ring like 90% of the time in campaign.

Especially for shit like sam/dnc and war/dnc that soak up hits.

[Darkvision]

Where does it say "lowered" "timer" "stronger" "rapeface"?

Last time they changed Sleep resist of Fafnir people jumped thinking they made it stronger, impossible for newbies, while in fact they just made it easier.

The characteristic of the following Notorious Monsters in which their strength changes over time after being claimed has been adjusted:
King Arthro / Simurgh / Roc / Serket / Capricious Cassie / Lord of Onzozo / Behemoth / King Behemoth / Adamantoise / Aspidochelone / Fafnir / Nidhogg / Sandworm / Dark Ixion

FINALLY the rage timer has been lowered. Thank you SE (*'-')

how about just make them all imune to sleep, oh an make them tougher too, give us all a chalange. lowering the rage timer to what people think is 30 mins, hell i have neever seen Behemoth / King Behemoth / Adamantoise / Aspidochelone / Fafnir / Nidhogg take longer than 20 mins to kill, and HQ HNM from Doomvoid only takes 15-25 mins to kill, possibly quicker, maybe some LS's might actually have to work for thier kill. not gonna name any LS's here but some only know how to bot and not know how to kill, well they kill but after like half thier alliance dying.

[TummieGaruda]

Also update on the blu spell.. Triumphant Smash is two hits, with an ice crystallizing effect at the end which causes Paralysis

[Uubu]

any one working on a standalone update?

[Corrderio]

Also update on the blu spell.. Triumphant Smash is two hits, with an ice crystallizing effect at the end which causes Paralysis

Sounds promising, can't wait to test it out.

Hopefully that attack bonus one is good.

[Hellfury]

the guild npc(s) that give recipes, do they drag everything from one big dat file, or do they work in some other way? would it be possible to see if they changed, to see what/how/where the new things are made?

[Yugl]

hell i have neever seen Behemoth / King Behemoth / Adamantoise / Aspidochelone / Fafnir / Nidhogg take longer than 20 mins to kill

I have! I bet they're going to get mass regen.

[Jaunty]

Sounds promising, can't wait to test it out.

Hopefully that attack bonus one is good.

Going by other BLU magic its probably just 20 attack I'd say. But then I'm often wrong.

[Funkworkz]

Those recipes are server-side. Also i think MMM tablets are too

[Deimos]

Nobody's commenting on the 9 temporary key items Stone of Surya/Chandra/Mangala/Budga/Brihaspati/Shukra/Shani/Rahu/Ketu that together make the Navaratna Talisman?

The descriptions for the individual stones say "A <gem description>, created by a legendary king to honor one of the nine cosmic forces. It is said the complete set shall grant its owner entry into the halls of darkness...". And the Talisman's description is "The set of nine cosmic gems, joined by an otherworldly force to form a dazzling pendant. Dancing wisps of ethereal light beckon you to the halls of darkness...".

Sounds like the WotG equivalent of Einherjar to me.

[Nevex]

Going by other BLU magic its probably just 20 attack I'd say. But then I'm often wrong.

Or +50 attack that lasts 30 seconds, costs 70 MP, 4 spell points and has 8s casting time!

[Dravin]

how about just make them all imune to sleep, oh an make them tougher too, give us all a chalange. lowering the rage timer to what people think is 30 mins, hell i have neever seen Behemoth / King Behemoth / Adamantoise / Aspidochelone / Fafnir / Nidhogg take longer than 20 mins to kill, and HQ HNM from Doomvoid only takes 15-25 mins to kill, possibly quicker, maybe some LS's might actually have to work for thier kill. not gonna name any LS's here but some only know how to bot and not know how to kill, well they kill but after like half thier alliance dying.

Amen