Jul.20 Version Update - Discussion

[Gergall]

Is any dat miner able to check for maze runes 085, 105, or anything 114+?

I apologize for having asked this a couple of times, but I'm hoping that once every 6 pages is permissible.

[Neosutra]

I still don't get why people are complaining. Q_Q This is a pretty fantastic update.

Two new zones (which hasn't happened in years), tons of new missions, lots of great gear, and new monster types which might be awesome. Lookin' at you, Ampidjigga.

*EDIT* For reference, compare THIS update's equipment to last update's, in which pretty much the only decent thing they added was ACP bodies.

And by two new zones you mean zones we have already had for 4+ years, just with a [S] after them now.

And what awesome gear are you seeing in the dats, I must have missed it..

[Funkworkz]

Is any dat miner able to check for maze runes 085, 105, or anything 114+?

I apologize for having asked this a couple of times, but I'm hoping that once every 6 pages is permissible.

i dont know much about MMM, but mentioned in my last post that im pretty sure they are server side and not in dats

edit: someone correct me if im wrong and ill try to find them

[Limlight]

meh, honestly only thing that lived up to expectation for me was iron ram body. I didn't really care about anything else in this update (probably not doing the kupo thing as I'm main war, drk, pld and I just don't see too much of a point with my current gear) In this regard, it isn't too bad of an update for me.

[Seraph]

And what awesome gear are you seeing in the dats, I must have missed it..

Kinda have to reserve judgment for the Augmented gear. It probably won't be anything good, but we won't know until people start cranking some out...

[TummieGaruda]

I don't know if this animation belongs to the "Ampithretre(sp?)", maybe you can verify Tummie. It seemed to be really in sync with the model's animation, but idk if the effect already existed or is in fact new.


http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/s...onster_roa.jpg

There is another one similar to it that has a different color. I believe it only does those moves while in flight, but I am not 100% sure.

[onisama]

And by two new zones you mean zones we have already had for 4+ years, just with a [S] after them now.

And what awesome gear are you seeing in the dats, I must have missed it..

hes talking about the dark magic skill belt for drk, that is pretty good.

[Therin]

And what awesome gear are you seeing in the dats, I must have missed it..

Iron Ram Hauberk
DEF:50 HP+32 Enmity+6
"Magic Def. Bonus"+5
Set: Increases all elemental resistances

Cobra Harness
DEF:42 Accuracy+11
"Store TP"+6
Enmity-8
Set: Enhances "Counter"effect

Patronus Ring
Physical damage taken -2%
Campaign: Physical damage taken -10%
LV60 All Jobs

Crimson Belt
Dark magic skill +2
Campaign: Dark magic skill +20
LV60 All Jobs

Silver Fox Earring
Ranged Attack+2
Campaign: Ranged Attack+20
LV60 All Jobs

Cougar Pendant
HP+30 Campaign: HP+200
Lv60 All Jobs

Rose Strap
Store TP+4
Campaign: "Store TP"+20
Lv.60

Ariesian Grip
MP recovered while healing +1
Campaign:
MP recovered while healing +20
Lv.60

Sturm's Report
Magic Accuracy+2
Campaign: Magic Accuracy+15
Level 60 Ammo
All jobs

Sonia's Plectrum
Waltz potency +1%
Campaign: "Waltz" potency +10%
Level 60 Ammo
All jobs

Each of these items has great uses. A few are highly situational (Cobra Harness, Patronus's Ring), but most are the best for their slots.

Compared against last update's absolutely nothing, this is a pretty amazing update.

[Gtype954]

Being that there is No HNM drops in the .DATs, then I am sure those 3 HNMs we are seeing are probably bosses from campaign or from the ANNM in those zones. Then again, SE is known for releasing HNMs that don't drop crap when they are first released.

[Shinsei]

There is another one similar to it that has a different color. I believe it only does those moves while in flight, but I am not 100% sure.

Yea I saw that, the animations for those two seems to be from this one for sure, even the sound of the monster matches. I stumbled on a few other animations but I can't figure who they belong to yet.

[ronin sparthos]

Being that there is No HNM drops in the .DATs, then I am sure those 3 HNMs we are seeing are probably bosses from campaign or from the ANNM in those zones. Then again, SE is known for releasing HNMs that don't drop crap when they are first released.

SE has been obsessed with the idea of augmented items recently so it could be an HNM that drops augmented items, reusing old gear names with new stats.

Doubt it but we'll know soon enough!

[sruon]

And by two new zones you mean zones we have already had for 4+ years, just with a [S] after them now.

And what awesome gear are you seeing in the dats, I must have missed it..

This, thousand times, iron ram isn't cutting it, been waiting for it ONE year, and rest of the gear doesn't make it a good update either.

[Gwynplaine]

FYI the augmenting NM in sky is named Eraser. Don't get upset when it does precisely that and erases any meaningful stats your equip once had. The warning is right in the name!

[Michelob]

SE has been obsessed with the idea of augmented items recently so it could be an HNM that drops augmented items, reusing old gear names with new stats.

Doubt it but we'll know soon enough!

Or this could be the AV/PW mob that they were talking about adding with WotG and we won't have a clue what it drops for a few years

[Funkworkz]

There is no new title associated with the new flying demon thinger, so it will probably con impossible to guage similar to UFOs and not be anything special

or its materials will be used for the new augment weapons! yay!

[Fallyn]

Or this could be the AV/PW mob that they were talking about adding with WotG and we won't have a clue what it drops for a few years

...But the drops would still be in the update.

[Siniroth]

...But the drops would still be in the update.

Or you can take what he said in the sense that it doesn't drop anything yet and we won't know for a few years :<

[Thunder]

AV didn't have a loot pool for quite some time afaik. But PW's drops were included in ZNM updates.

[Siniroth]

AV didn't have a loot pool for quite some time afaik. But PW's drops were included in ZNM updates.

And WotG and CoP were both by the same team, and ToAU wasn't, how fitting

[Gergall]

i dont know much about MMM, but mentioned in my last post that im pretty sure they are server side and not in dats

edit: someone correct me if im wrong and ill try to find them

There are two descriptions to each rune. It starts out as a standard usable item that sits in your inventory, just like a potion or echo drops or whatever. This item has a very basic description with only a hint as to what it does. This is definitely dat-mineable

Then each rune also has a more specific description that only appears when you go to use it on a voucher. This specific description can actually change from one voucher to another, and may very well be server-side.

You should definitely be able to find the first, the usable item. It is no different from any other usable item. You should also be able to find Voucher 05, but we already know what it does so I'm not really concerned about that one.

Edit: And of course, thanks in advance if you are able to find anything!