Iron Ram set and Paladins

[Terrestrialrage]

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This is the set I use for Lance MDT/MDB. The only thing that isn't optimal about it is, assuming capped Shellra V, Resolute -> Leiutenant's and Resentment -> Lamia +1. Throw in the IR Body and you're at +21 MDB with capped MDT. If someone can make a build with more MDB still maintaining capped MDT (I know about my example above) then please do, I'd be interested in upgrading to it.

Edit: Also not counting Ataractic Solea which I know of and don't have.

[Neosutra]

Meh, its not bad. Im capped on MDT with Aegis and Shell5.

17 Extra MDB from Iron ram set.

Can get about 100 resist for any specific element from other slots. Ill take -50% MDT, a good deal of MDB, and 120+ resist any day of the week (for impromtu magic down swap). If I was going for specific element resistance, I would probably just go full resist still though Q.Q.

[Callisto]

Meh, its not bad. Im capped on MDT with Aegis and Shell5.

17 Extra MDB from Iron ram set.

Can get about 100 resist for any specific element from other slots. Ill take -50% MDT, a good deal of MDB, and 120+ resist any day of the week (for impromtu magic down swap). If I was going for specific element resistance, I would probably just go full resist still though Q.Q.

Yeah but for pure inventory reasons, the utility is pretty nice. It won't floor things as much as a max resist set really, but if you aren't taking enough to be in danger it'd be kind of nice to not have to fish out extra shit for different mobs.

[Meat]

I typically don't swap in lance for MDT unless I'm kiting, I don't really like ditching my TP for it so I get my 25% elsewhere. But yeah, I agree for max results the MDB chunks on IR are pretty huge.

agreed, on lets say something like timmy, even 1\2 attonment damage is still damage.

[Suiram]

Since there appears to be some confusion, Aegis + Shell5 2/5 or higher is capped. Aegis + Shell5 1/5 you need 1% more magic damage reduction. With Aegis + Shell4 you'll need 4% more to cap (it's actually a bit of overkill but most if not all 3% pieces would leave you short).

[Thekender]

Since there appears to be some confusion, Aegis + Shell5 2/5 or higher is capped. Aegis + Shell5 1/5 you need 1% more magic damage reduction. With Aegis + Shell4 you'll need 4% more to cap (it's actually a bit of overkill but most if not all 3% pieces would leave you short).

And if you have aegis and dring you only need Shell III to cap no?

[Darlantan]

And if you have aegis and dring you only need Shell III to cap no?

Shell III overkills by 3, shell II lacks 1. Also, fuck you and your aegis/D.rings .

[Dravin]

Why are people so set on replacing their body w/ this for mdt?
Without an Aegis or Dring, I prefer my 25% MDT to a few pieces of MDB.
And even when I don't swap out to Iron Ram lance, I would prefer Avalon/Coral.

In all honesty getting to -50% mdt is really easy on pld since lance. Being able to stack a ton of mdb after reaching that is incredible for stuff like Ultima. Chances are for the most part if your tanking something that does a lot of aoe or magic based attacks that go through shadows (Tiamat, Ouryu, Wyrm, ect) your using a resist build anyway.

Like I stated in the ver update thread Avalon is a huge waste of gil. Coral is now (unless your a rdm) I'm just glad i can push the amount I eat CB for lower now....

[Crisco]

Going on the assumption that maxing specific resists is still best the Ideal setup would be ( and let me know if i missed anything )

Hrotti (fire resist)
Aegis or Numinous Shield +1
Iron ram Lance
Black ribbon (even lower ribbons is more resist then Iron ram Head)
Assault Breastplate (if you cant afford it then Iron Ram body)
Iron Ram hands
W.legs and Iron ram legs (swapped depending on resists needed)
W.feet and Iron ram feet (swapped depending on resists needed)
Cerberus Mantle (10 fire) / Lamia Mantle+1 (4mdb) / Resentment cape (if you have no aegis)

Avatar belts for 20 resist
Rings/earrings for appropriate elemental resist
MDT earrings not needed w/ aegis
and D ring obviously if you have it

Lamia Kaman / +1

Hopefully I'm reading this right...if not, just disregard I guess.

First off, unless you're hitting 130s at a minimum, don't bother. You'd be better off with maxing out your MDT/MDB set or filling out that resist build.

Also, iirc IR Gear only gives resist bonus after the first piece. So essentially, you're wasting one slot so you can get 5 resist in another, while you could be getting 15-20+ combined. So, IR is useless in terms of a resist build; don't use it for that purpose.

[Neosutra]

So basically:

-50% magic damage taken (Aegis pld).
17 MDB from set.
4 MDB from lamia mantle +1.
2 MDB from lamian kamen +1.
2 MDB Unfettered ring.
3 MDB Volunteer's ring.
5 MDB from barspell enhances from blessed briault.
2 MDB from resolute belt.

+10 MDB from barspell merits if your whm is smart..
+10 from rdm sub, +22 from whm sub..

Thats 50 MDT, 30 MDB with just gear and shell5... 45 MDB with merited whm, 55 MDB with /rdm and merited whm support, and SIXTY FUCKING SEVEN MDB with full gear, merited whm, and blessed briault.

Im now immune to magic damage..

[Pirian]

So basically:

-50% magic damage taken (Aegis pld).
17 MDB from set.
4 MDB from lamia mantle +1.
2 MDB from lamian kamen +1.
2 MDB Unfettered ring.
3 MDB Volunteer's ring.
5 MDB from barspell enhances from blessed briault.
2 MDB from resolute belt.

+10 MDB from barspell merits if your whm is smart..
+10 from rdm sub, +22 from whm sub..

Thats 50 MDT, 30 MDB with just gear and shell5... 45 MDB with merited whm, 55 MDB with /rdm and merited whm support, and SIXTY FUCKING SEVEN MDB with full gear, merited whm, and blessed briault.

Im now immune to magic damage..

I'd use, and do use, shadow ring over Unfettered ring. Chance for 0 dmg> 2MDB

[Seraph]

I'd use, and do use, shadow ring over Unfettered ring. Chance for 0 dmg> 2MDB

Doesn't it average out to ~10% MDT- over time?

[Neosutra]

Dont get me started about my dynamis LSs shadow item rules.

I'll never see a ring.

[Limlight]

So basically:

-50% magic damage taken (Aegis pld).
17 MDB from set.
4 MDB from lamia mantle +1.
2 MDB from lamian kamen +1.
2 MDB Unfettered ring.
3 MDB Volunteer's ring.
5 MDB from barspell enhances from blessed briault.
2 MDB from resolute belt.

+10 MDB from barspell merits if your whm is smart..
+10 from rdm sub, +22 from whm sub..

Thats 50 MDT, 30 MDB with just gear and shell5... 45 MDB with merited whm, 55 MDB with /rdm and merited whm support, and SIXTY FUCKING SEVEN MDB with full gear, merited whm, and blessed briault.

Im now immune to magic damage..

rofl I can't help it just made me chuckle the way he said it.

[Valisk]

Dont get me started about my dynamis LSs shadow item rules.

/comfort

[Pirian]

Doesn't it average out to ~10% MDT- over time?

Sounds reasonable, still beats out anything else that fits in ring slot Not to mention on Darksday you get the added bonus of +10 MDB, or whatever it is.

Also, I feel for you neo My dynamis ls changed around priority for shadow items, but this was only after the long standing pld's and nin's got theirs.

[Vendeen]

Isn't there some advantage of being able to cap Magic % taken without swamping out your sword?

[Crisco]

Ignorance is bliss. I like never having TP for Atonement or Chivalry.

[Dravin]

Hopefully I'm reading this right...if not, just disregard I guess.

First off, unless you're hitting 130s at a minimum, don't bother. You'd be better off with maxing out your MDT/MDB set or filling out that resist build.

Also, iirc IR Gear only gives resist bonus after the first piece. So essentially, you're wasting one slot so you can get 5 resist in another, while you could be getting 15-20+ combined. So, IR is useless in terms of a resist build; don't use it for that purpose.

Yeah definitely if your not in the 130-140 range on a resist build you'll still get trucked.

As far as the Shadow ring thing. I fully agree since I've gotten mine I have eaten around 5 CBs for 0 and seen it proc numerous times on wyrms. If you have one it should be in all of your resist/mdt-mdb builds end of story.

[Duber]

I definitely prefer not to swap sword if not neccesary, first for tp and second because on situations like JoL having a chance to block pets tp moves with jol 2h is nice too.

And about the setup Neosutra suggested, that's sick but probably I'd sacrifice some MDB for enmity like rings/waist. Situational of course, if you are going to eat a CB you don't need enmity at all.