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    Quote Originally Posted by Teorem View Post
    If you'd like to start, you know where to do it at.

    If you'd like to eventually see a Shadow Ring, convince Dynamis Lord to drop more than two a year. The lack thereof certainly hasn't been for lack of us trying.
    It's almost as if I was right about the ring/mantle drop rate not keeping up with our attrition/recruitment rate..

    Not like it matters, I've lived w/o it and will continue to live w/o it. Just reserving the right to /poke fun at things that probably should have been changed years ago.

    Regardless, Im pretty happy with all the MDB pieces SE has been adding. Being able to reduce magic damage by 80-90%+ is rediculously powerful when used right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    MDB trait 1 is 10

    MDB trait 2 is 12

    = 22.
    No, they don't stack

    MDB trait 2 is 12, yes, but it's only +2 over the base

    Exactly like MAB trait 2 is 24, which is 4 over MAB 1, not 24 over it

    MDB traits are half what MAB is at all levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duber View Post
    That's why I said situational. On JoL for instance I don't feel like switching enmity gear for every single cast because mainly I'm casting non-stop, so I wear a mix.

    You aren't telling me anything new, I have been playing pld for 5 years.

    Anyway, the combination is sick.
    I don't understand the point you are trying to make. All gear swaps should already be in your macros (provided you have situational sets already made for /war, /rdm) so it's not anymore effort on your part to be doing your job better. If you just stand there and cast from the menu, then I'm sorry you've been playing pld for 5 years and don't know this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    It's almost as if I was right about the ring/mantle drop rate not keeping up with our attrition/recruitment rate..

    Not like it matters, I've lived w/o it and will continue to live w/o it. Just reserving the right to /poke fun at things that probably should have been changed years ago.

    Regardless, Im pretty happy with all the MDB pieces SE has been adding. Being able to reduce magic damage by 80-90%+ is rediculously powerful when used right.


    my shadow ring sucked balls. i didnt get 1/10 the proc ppl claimed. i have a SS of it proc'ing when i was on DRK on ultima from CB. i SS'd it and held it as a trophy because i knew damn well i wasnt gonna get lucky again lol (not like i couldn't survive it anyway. CB is a joke, but still). The only time i did use it a lot was on darksdays tho. the added MDB was nice to have on an idle set.

    but looking back, even when we had no one to give it out too from capping the main tanks, i wouldve passed to to a lvl 20 pld or something lol. or trade it in for a lapdance from my neo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foldypaws View Post
    No, they don't stack

    MDB trait 2 is 12, yes, but it's only +2 over the base

    Exactly like MAB trait 2 is 24, which is 4 over MAB 1, not 24 over it

    MDB traits are half what MAB is at all levels.
    MDB1 doesnt stack between jobs.

    MDB 1 and 2 do stack..

    Am I being wooshed?


    AFK testing >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    MDB1 doesnt stack between jobs.

    MDB 1 and 2 do stack..

    Am I being wooshed?


    AFK testing >.>
    I honestly always thought that MDB2 granted a total bonus of +2 over MDB1, but I have never tested it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    MDB1 doesnt stack between jobs.

    MDB 1 and 2 do stack..

    Am I being wooshed?


    AFK testing >.>
    If this were true, 70WHM would have MDB4 for a total of +52 MDB from traits... They don't stack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    So basically:

    -50% magic damage taken (Aegis pld).
    17 MDB from set.
    4 MDB from lamia mantle +1.
    2 MDB from lamian kamen +1.
    2 MDB Unfettered ring.
    3 MDB Volunteer's ring.
    5 MDB from barspell enhances from blessed briault.
    2 MDB from resolute belt.

    +10 MDB from barspell merits if your whm is smart..
    +10 from rdm sub, +22 from whm sub..

    Thats 50 MDT, 30 MDB with just gear and shell5... 45 MDB with merited whm, 55 MDB with /rdm and merited whm support, and SIXTY FUCKING SEVEN MDB with full gear, merited whm, and blessed briault.

    Im now immune to magic damage..


    You forgot something. Fully merited WHM with blessed briault is not 15 MDB (if they're smart).

    5/5 Barspell = 10 MDB
    Blessed Briault = 5 MDB
    Barspell cast under the effect of Afflatus: Solace = 5 MDB

    WHM can now give max of 20 MDB instead of the old max of 15 MDB

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    Quote Originally Posted by friedfunk View Post
    If this were true, 70WHM would have MDB4 for a total of +52 MDB from traits... They don't stack.
    Ya, that sounds about right.

    Learn something new everyday.

    Guess I go back to asking myself why that one group subbed /whm for their plds instead of /rdm for PW lamps.

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    Maybe their tank didn't have /RDM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richardd View Post
    my shadow ring sucked balls. i didnt get 1/10 the proc ppl claimed. i have a SS of it proc'ing when i was on DRK on ultima from CB. i SS'd it and held it as a trophy because i knew damn well i wasnt gonna get lucky again lol (not like i couldn't survive it anyway. CB is a joke, but still). The only time i did use it a lot was on darksdays tho. the added MDB was nice to have on an idle set.

    but looking back, even when we had no one to give it out too from capping the main tanks, i wouldve passed to to a lvl 20 pld or something lol. or trade it in for a lapdance from my neo
    That's interesting because I see very good results with mine. It's the mantle that I only use during Darksdays for Rampart. Mantle proc rate is ridiculously low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    It's almost as if I was right about the ring/mantle drop rate not keeping up with our attrition/recruitment rate..

    Not like it matters, I've lived w/o it and will continue to live w/o it. Just reserving the right to /poke fun at things that probably should have been changed years ago.

    Regardless, Im pretty happy with all the MDB pieces SE has been adding. Being able to reduce magic damage by 80-90%+ is rediculously powerful when used right.
    How is it 80%/90% (the set you posted)? It had 60ish MDB? 50% PDT is cutting magic by half. Were you to have 100 MDB you'd cut it by half once more (on a mob w/o MAB) and you'd take 25% (cut of 75%). Am I missing something crucial? I probably am because it's late and I'm updating, but I'm curious nevertheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crisco View Post
    That's interesting because I see very good results with mine. It's the mantle that I only use during Darksdays for Rampart. Mantle proc rate is ridiculously low.
    its like the opposite haha

    my mantle was the shit, i never relied on it, but it sure as hell made me look good on some fights. i was lucky with that thing.

    isnt it ironic though? as a nin, i dont get hit nearly as often as a pld from physical attacks. i would need the ring to help me more than the mantle would for the instant aoes, etc. but nooooooooo, i had the fuckin' dollar store shadow ring

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beave View Post
    I don't understand the point you are trying to make. All gear swaps should already be in your macros (provided you have situational sets already made for /war, /rdm) so it's not anymore effort on your part to be doing your job better. If you just stand there and cast from the menu, then I'm sorry you've been playing pld for 5 years and don't know this.
    My point is that on JoL I prefer to wear a mix of MDT and enmity because I'm casting non-stop and don't want to be full time on full enmity gear for that reason.

    Nothing else, personal preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duber View Post
    My point is that on JoL I prefer to wear a mix of MDT and enmity because I'm casting non-stop and don't want to be full time on full enmity gear for that reason.

    Nothing else, personal preference.
    Probably best just to give yourself an extra 2 seconds of not casting (while his ga spell goes off) and get hit in your full MDB set, and then cast in full emnity/haste.

    You'll lose less emnity from the less damage taken and maintain more emnity/hastes in your casts.

    But I do know what you mean by "being in a perpetual motion of casting" on JoL when /rdm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    Probably best just to give yourself an extra 2 seconds of not casting (while his ga spell goes off) and get hit in your full MDB set, and then cast in full emnity/haste.

    You'll lose less emnity from the less damage taken and maintain more emnity/hastes in your casts.

    But I do know what you mean by "being in a perpetual motion of casting" on JoL when /rdm.
    Yeah, maybe but meh, I cap mdt% and SS... JoL nukes barely break my SS, not a big deal.

    Its just a personal preference for that fight, not saying its best but works for me.

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    Is Iron Ran Hauberk from a new rank tier or no? Downloading update now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Recaldy View Post
    Is Iron Ran Hauberk from a new rank tier or no? Downloading update now.
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    Its pretty nice, interesting that they jumped the resist from being just +20 for all round resist to giving a bonus 10 for having equipped full set, aka 30 res.

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    been playing with builds and it works surprisingly well FFXIGEAR.com ffxigear doesn't show the Set bonus at all yet apparently but this will get you to 131 Fire resist when you add IR set, and all of it is relatively easy to get aside form cerb bow and maybe mantle

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