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    Quote Originally Posted by Vail View Post
    story related...
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    the ??? elvaan that talked to Ragelise in the final CS... gives me the gut feeling that Lilith is trying to get both the mother and father on her side, to prevent lilsette's birth and insure her own. meaning I think that ??? elvaan was one of the spitewardens in disguise
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    I hope it isn't the 5th Spitewarden. That shit's been played relentlessly through the missions. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pindle View Post
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    I hope it isn't the 5th Spitewarden. That shit's been played relentlessly through the missions. :/
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    seeing as the closing CS only features 4 of them.. lets just assume there are only 4...
    if anything, its 1 of them shapeshifted.

    edit: not exactly related but a part of me hopes the spitewardens will somehow become the next Ark Angels / Divine Might

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    The ??? Elvaan is almost definitely Haudrale. He uses this form in La Vaule and somewhere else, I believe.

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    I enjoy the Wings storyline a lot, but I was underwhelmed by the actual missions this time around. The Cait Siths scene was some seriously brown-acid-induced ridiculousness.

    Tangentially, the effects artists at Square are masters of juicing every bit of outdated PS2 technology while somehow creating amazingly stylized graphics and animation. Lilisette irritates me to the extent she is yet another token, overly peppy expansion youth. But whether she's puzzled, sullen, tearful, determined, or dodging balls whizzing past her face, her subtle facial expressions are very impressive.

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    Yes, it's nice to see they finally learned to get emotion out of NPC faces in WotG. I was amazed that you can actually see how they're feeling through just facial expression.

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    120 is possible and...

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    I knew it! Can you explain further?


    EDIT: Also the Cait Sith scene where the real Caith Sith appears(Did you guys see Caith Sith?) for the first time was actually hilarious.

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    Like Onorgul said it appears 106~ signatures awards you with an Orichalcum Ingot.

    Here are the steps I took to result in 106 signatures. I'm going to include the full Questions and Answers which is long so I'll spoiler it:

    Question and Answer Mutiple Signature NPC's

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    Q & A 1
    Farouel

    What prowls the Beaucedine Glacier?
    Raptors.
    Smilodons.
    X Imps.

    What calls Xarcabard its home?
    Yagudo.
    X Tauri.
    Gnoles.

    What inhabits both regions?
    Gnoles.
    Smilodons.
    X Ghosts.

    Result = 4 sigs

    Q & A 2
    Vichauxdat

    How many Orcish units?
    One.
    X Three.
    Four.

    The name of One-eyed Gwajboj's unit?
    Gravemakers.
    X Gutrenders.
    Dismemberment Brigade.

    The name of the Orc leader?
    X Grradhod.
    Rojgnoj.
    Gnadgad.

    Result = 6 sigs

    Q & A 3
    Aurfet

    The leader of the Royal Knights is...
    Rahal S Lebrart.
    X Yrvaulair S Cousseraux.
    Febrenard C Brunnaut.

    The leader of the Temple Knights is...
    Curilla V Mecru.
    Yrvaulair S Cousseraux.
    X Febrenard C Brunnaut.

    The leader of the Royal Guard is...
    Altedour I Tavnazia.
    X Valaineral R Davilles.
    Ragelise B Baloumat.

    Which does not exist?
    Knights of the Cardinal Stag.
    X Knights of the Rustwing Hawk.
    The Royal Guard.

    Result = 6 sigs

    Q & A 4
    Corseihaut

    The president of Bastok is...
    Franz Werner.
    Derek Karst.
    X Uwe Prien.

    The name of the unit is...
    The Iron Musketeers.
    The Gold Musketeers.
    X The Mythril Musketeers.

    The serving captain is...
    X Klara Bester.
    Volker.
    Bartholomaus Krueger.

    Windurst's commander-in-chief is..
    Lehko Habhoka.
    Ajido-Marujido.
    X Robel-Akbel.

    How many War Warlock units are there?
    Three.
    Twelve.
    X Thirteen.

    Who isn't a mercenary major?
    Perih Vashai.
    X Choh Moui.
    Haja Zhwan.

    Result = 4 sigs

    Singular Signature NPC's
    Mailleronce
    Loillie
    Elnonde
    Remiotte
    Aissaville
    Illeuse
    Daigraffeaux
    Machionage
    Louxiard
    Andagge


    Special Requirement Multiple Signature NPC's
    Eumielle - Requires a Angler's Cassoulet from completing the "Beans Ahoy" Sandy (S) quest - 12 sigs
    Coucheutand - Requires an Orc Item - 10 sigs
    Hauberliond - Requires Crossbow Bolts - 2 stacks of 99 produced 10 sigs
    Sabiliont - Requires some Gysahl Greens - 3 stacks produced 9 sigs
    Rongelouts N Distaud - Requires a Gnole Claw and a Mini Game - 35 sigs

    Sig total = 106 produces an Orichalcum Ingot
    Change Farouel question #1 to Smilodins to get 6 points.

    Change Corseihaut question #5 to 12 to get 6 points.

    Q&A is now 24 points.
    Individual NPCs 10 points.
    RPS 35 points.
    4 stacks of bolts 12 points.
    8 stacks of greens 12 points.
    Food quest 12 points.
    Gold Orc Mask 15 points.

    24 + 10 + 35 + 12 + 12 + 12 + 15 = 120

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    Why couldn't lilisette catch up on the "mother" part. It's painfully obvious no matter how you look at it...I just wish she would realize this on her own, instead of saving for a not so shocking plot twist later.
    She already did. Look at her face in that Sandy CS. And Lilith gave her a smile and asked her "Choose Lilith in the future..." in the JP version (not sure what happened in the translated one) before stepping on her hands to make her let go.

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    Bah I think I know which I got wrong. The both the "units" ones(Windurst, Orc.) They are terribly unspecific. Hmmm, math still isn't adding up for me, but I guess it doesn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katalyn View Post
    120 is possible and...
    Nicely done thanks for info. Those Q & A were bothering me. It seems you don't get a bad response even for getting one or two wrong. And the northlands mobs questions seem like two of three answers are both correct. The orc units one also confuses me. It seems to me like there are 5-10 orc units not 1-3. I don't understand their rationale.

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    Has anyone had difficulty entering "Dungeons and Dancers"? PT of 3 could select the BCNM from the G-9 pawprints, but continually got "The hands of darkness have prevented you from proceeding." Even solo, I still got this message.

    (GMs were called and told us to go to the community websites)

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    I reached the petition mission this morning and otherWiki had full instructions for the 120 signatures so I just followed all the instructions and got my molybdenum ingot. Yay!

    One thing that I noticed which is total BS: When Farouel asks what monster prowls the glacier, "Imps" is considered incorrect. WTF? That is totally unfair and should be replaced with a better wrong answer like "Wivres" or something.

    Gwynplaine - You missed my favorite, I laughed when I saw the look on Lillisette's face when she sees the "new and improved" Cait Sith.

    Max - The instances were basically full, I think you just needed to wait. Number of members in your party wouldn't matter. In fact, lots of separate individuals soloing this mission at the same time is probably what kept you out. MMM runs and potentially a Sandworm group could also interfere.

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    "What calls Xarcabard it's home?" is pretty lame too, as Gnoles & Tauri are present there. However, the verb "prowl" does invoke images of tigers for me moreso than demons.

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    Anyone having trouble entering the "Distorter of Time" BC? It was working fine yesterday, but a friend is having trouble. Everyone supposedly has bug, and they disbanded and tried to enter solo but it wouldn't let them (says "The Hands of Darkness prevent you from proceeding"), tried zoning and no luck.

    GM said it was something wrong with the people rather than the game itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silversonic_11 View Post
    Anyone having trouble entering the "Distorter of Time" BC? It was working fine yesterday, but a friend is having trouble. Everyone supposedly has bug, and they disbanded and tried to enter solo but it wouldn't let them (says "The Hands of Darkness prevent you from proceeding"), tried zoning and no luck.

    GM said it was something wrong with the people rather than the game itself.
    Sorry that this isn't much help, but the message confirms that everyone has an Umbra Bug.

    No bug = different error message ("Not all party members meet the requirements" or something to that effect)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gergall View Post
    I reached the petition mission this morning and otherWiki had full instructions for the 120 signatures so I just followed all the instructions and got my molybdenum ingot. Yay!

    One thing that I noticed which is total BS: When Farouel asks what monster prowls the glacier, "Imps" is considered incorrect. WTF? That is totally unfair and should be replaced with a better wrong answer like "Wivres" or something.

    Gwynplaine - You missed my favorite, I laughed when I saw the look on Lillisette's face when she sees the "new and improved" Cait Sith.

    Max - The instances were basically full, I think you just needed to wait. Number of members in your party wouldn't matter. In fact, lots of separate individuals soloing this mission at the same time is probably what kept you out. MMM runs and potentially a Sandworm group could also interfere.
    I think the key word was "Prowls". Traditionally, that specifies a cat type monster!

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    Anyone think of the Lion King when Lilith kicked Lilisette off the circle? Win points if you can remember the line Scar uses in The Lion King!


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    I like this story much better than the other packs. I don't know much about Van diel history, but how does Diabolos/Dynamis play in all of this? Will it be a scene we're likely to witness?


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    It seems the deciding factor will be whether that guy choose Portia over San d Oria (Since none of the other nations matter). Hopefully he realized that the Kingdom is more important than some bitch.

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    Could someone post video of last bc+Final CS of current mission (yes read the spoilers) Since i'd love to see the big twist everyone talking about.

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    i hope to see a video too..
    preferably one with Lv ? holy going off.. cos its awesome pretty. (even tho it kills)

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    It is doubtful we will see the Battle of Beaucedine. Though, it would be incredibly awesome if we did, it's basically the Crimson Wolves chasing a whole bunch of Beastmen through Batallia, an epic 1 v 1 duel between Mieuseloir and a Demon General, but the Demon is a bitch and brings in the rest of the Beastmen when he's losing, but it's ok the Hydra Corps save the day. But, nearly all of the Crimson Wolves get wiped out (this time, it's for real), and Mieuseloir joins up with the Hydra Corp and gets Ragnarok presented to him. The reason I say this won't happen is because then who will defend Batallia Downs?

    Zogbog from the San d'Orian questlines briefly mentions the disappearance of thousands of people in Beaucedine or Xarcabard, I think. It's been a while so I can't remember which zone, and I can't remember if it was a direct reference to the fact how Doggvdegg will react when they go missing or the the reaction of the Allied Forces when the Battle of Xarcabard gets turned up to 11 with more Bloodwing Horde (originally most of them died/got lost in Tavnazia) It could've been both.

    Diabolos might play a role in a nation mission, briefly, and I have a feeling the only Shadow Lord we'll see is in some cutscenes from the Bastok line of quests.

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