WoTG Mission Thread

[hypnotizd]

Sorry that this isn't much help, but the message confirms that everyone has an Umbra Bug.

No bug = different error message ("Not all party members meet the requirements" or something to that effect)

I had problems entering Distorter of Time as well. The Regal Pawprints you need to use are not on the same level as the where you warp to the C.A (not the ones you click for the mission previously). You must go down the ramp and follow the left wall north to the SE corner of H-7 I believe.

[Carraway]

i hope to see a video too..
preferably one with Lv ? holy going off.. cos its awesome pretty. (even tho it kills)

I plan on doing the last two BCs tonight so I'll run FRAPS for it.

[Ker]

Please add the final CS along side with it _(_ _)_

[Spira]

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what about Noillurie? she's 'currently' in the northlands too, but is also a regular campaign NPC rite?

...if they're all gonna get sucked into dynamis.. then they wont exist right..

but FFXI has always been like that in the way that the game itself exists in stasis. although things happen to place in story missions, the actual world remains unchanged...

kinda like how tu'lia 'shuts down' after you defeat Eald'narche, or how you can keep doing dynamis after you eliminate the 'disturbance' in it... the rest of the game will remain as if nothing happened.. but you will get to see the story..

i think we will get to see Dynamis actually happening.. as in, diabolos doing his work

[Rocl]

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After beating Dynamis Lord, I am fairly certain ??? (aka Diabolos) gives some bullshit explanation to why you can continue to do it.

Noillurie and Lhu Mkharraca (idk her exact name) should, in theory also be both sucked into Dynamis. I just think Mieuseloir's story is cooler, since he doesn't yet wield Ragnarok in Shadowreign time. Kilhwch and possibly Ulla as well, definitely the former but the fact he's so close with the latter makes me wonder if she plays some role... hope we get to explore that with a quest :\

Also roooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooffffffffffffffff fffffffffflllll @ Noillurie in the CS, I had nearly forgotten about that, she was hilarious too.

[Jeryhn]

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Has anyone thought that maybe Dynamis is the alternate dimension where Lilith comes from?

[Thiefami]

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I like this story much better than the other packs. I don't know much about Van diel history, but how does Diabolos/Dynamis play in all of this? Will it be a scene we're likely to witness?

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my guess is atomos, they used him as a dimensional and time warp

[Spira]

I thought this was the most priceless moment in the mission CS

[Spira]

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Has anyone thought that maybe Dynamis is the alternate dimension where Lilith comes from?

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Cait Sith quite explicitly states that both we and Lilisette are from the same future, even giving specifics of the year we were from...
so i think its safe enough to rule it out..
also i doubt SE is that unoriginal to pull off both FF8 and FF10 plot devices in the same storyline in WotG

[Spira]

this one isnt bad too lol..

nonspoilerific... just silly..

I want to see how the other races turned out.

heres Hume M

[Hanyoko]

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Sooo, in that CS where the spitewardens and lilith are looking over the northlands.... was that Robel-Akbel that appeared there on the circle or were my eyes playing tricks. It was definatly a taru that was gone by the time the camera backed away

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There is actually a spot in the BC (to caitsith's left) where you can stand against the wall and be out of range of Holy, but still be in range to cure lilisette. Or maybe its just the terrain height difference. Either way Atomos would also summon and do nothing for long periods of time, but usualy when someone was resting he would turn to do the 'suck in' move

[Jeryhn]

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Cait Sith quite explicitly states that both we and Lilisette are from the same future, even giving specifics of the year we were from...
so i think its safe enough to rule it out..
also i doubt SE is that unoriginal to pull off both FF8 and FF10 plot devices in the same storyline in WotG

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Lilith, not Lilisette. The premise behind Lilith's identity is that she comes from a time when the Crystal War never ended (and never ends, we can assume).

[Rocl]

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Fairly certain Robel-Akbel was indeed revealed to at least be working with Lilith, yes. That was him on the glowing platform thing. I am willing to be he is indeed a Spitewarden.

I do not think Lilith comes from Dynamis... because Diabolos pulled them into Dynamis to sort of make some kind of peace, I thought? I could've sworn he did it for the benefit of the world

[Jeryhn]

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Fairly certain Robel-Akbel was indeed revealed to at least be working with Lilith, yes. That was him on the glowing platform thing. I am willing to be he is indeed a Spitewarden.

I do not think Lilith comes from Dynamis... because Diabolos pulled them into Dynamis to sort of make some kind of peace, I thought? I could've sworn he did it for the benefit of the world

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That's exactly the angle I'm going for. Something "monumental" is supposed to happen at Xarcabard. Perhaps Diabolos is tapped by Altana to split the timeline in two, creating Dynamis so that the Crystal War may end, thus preventing the future timeline where the War never ends from occuring (maybe, instead, mimicking it in the dreamworld?).

[Spira]

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Lilith, not Lilisette. The premise behind Lilith's identity is that she comes from a time when the Crystal War never ended (and never ends, we can assume).

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oh lilith.. my bad i read it wrongly. then again same person

I doubt Lilith came from Dynamis, because she is said to come from an alternate timeline where the war never ended.
now Dynamis, doesn't have time and isn't a reality... from what I know, those who were pulled into dynamis by Diabolos are essentially sleeping for an eternity, and in a form of stasis. and once you're sucked in, there is no escape. Diabolos apparently did this because the fate of the people at war probably must have been too terrible to bear, so he gave them 'peace' by marauding them in dreams.. except that the Shadowlord has corrupted it

Players who do dynamis are different cos.. of the hourglass thing..

edit: also, to what i remember, the purpose of Diabolos, as with all of the terrestrial avatars was to prevent the awaking of Promathia thru the keeper of the apocalyse. Each of them have separate takes on how to accomplish this.. with Diabolos choosing to subvert people into him dreamworld to accomplish this. I suppose the events at Xarcabard may have been cataclysmic enough for him to have worried if the keeper would awaken as a result (of the chaos?). so he decided to drag them to hell.. kinda

[Jeryhn]

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oh lilith.. my bad i read it wrongly. then again same person

I doubt Lilith came from Dynamis, because she is said to come from an alternate timeline where the war never ended.
now Dynamis, doesn't have time and isn't a reality... from what I know, those who were pulled into dynamis by Diabolos are essentially sleeping for an eternity. and once you're sucked in, there is no escape. Diabolos apparently did this because the fate of the people at war probably must have been too terrible to bear, so he gave them 'peace' by marauding them in dreams.. except that the Shadowlord has corrupted it

Players who do dynamis are different cos.. of the hourglass thing..

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Perhaps not from Dynamis then, but rather, Dynamis is a view of that alternate timeline as it could have been?

[Riki]

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Perhaps not from Dynamis then, but rather, Dynamis is a view of that alternate timeline as it could have been?

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Dynamis is just a corrupted dream. A Nightmare.

[Spira]

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Perhaps not from Dynamis then, but rather, Dynamis is a view of that alternate timeline as it could have been?

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I guess it is a possibility, tho I prefer to think of Dynamis as a place where a snapshot of reality was taken, and stolen into his dimension..

because clearly, the time where Lilith comes from has moved on from just the simple mechanisms of war. One of the spitewardens mentions in the CS a different world order where chaos is normal and people who fight well are recognized in some form or something..

also, that Lilith's hierarchy is established.. herself as Vana'diels custodian and the Spitewardens that are under her.. are all things that wouldn't have existed during that war.. not to mention the fact that she's grown up...

side note: as if looking like Ultimecia wasn't bad enough, the spitewardens call her Matron too lol (i know that was used for Edea, not Ulty.. but seriously?)

[Jeryhn]

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side note: as if looking like Ultimecia wasn't bad enough, the spitewardens call her Matron too lol (i know that was used for Edea, not Ulty.. but seriously?)

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Just to clarify, I think the "matron" the Spitewardens are referring to is Portia. They were supposed to locate her, and is somehow essential to Lilith's plan.

Getting the feeling that either Ringaling (love that nickname) or Portia is supposed to die, and which one does determines the birth of Lilisette/Lilith. (we know if Portia bites the dust, that Ringaling still has options).

[Spira]

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Just to clarify, I think the "matron" the Spitewardens are referring to is Portia. They were supposed to locate her, and is somehow essential to Lilith's plan.

Getting the feeling that either Ringaling (love that nickname) or Portia is supposed to die, and which one does determines the birth of Lilisette/Lilith. (we know if Portia bites the dust, that Ringaling still has options).

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guess im gonna need to rewatch the CS.. after all i did think Lilith wanted the irish spitewarden to capture Lilisette instead of Portia...

any idea how Ringaling came about. i dont seem to remember the origin of the nickname..
isn't Portia both Lilith and Lilisettes mother? and I would assume Ringaling is the father in both cases... unless.. Lilith has a different father (still Elvaan tho, considering her looks) which seems rather unlikely because Portia seems so dedicated to Ringaling.

My guess is that the lineage from that point is especially important to the forking of the timelines. Perhaps Lilith's timeline is determined by the death of Ragelise, who had already impregnated Portia.. but his death would have caused her to fall to the dark side and thus Lilith would be raised in chaos, etc. The battle at Xarca must probably play a part..
It would kinda make sense then, that Haudrale shot him with that arrow thingy.

Then again, Lilisette remembers Regalise's arrow wound in her timeline as well, which kinda creates a time paradox because if both sides never went back in time, who dealt the arrow blow to Regalise? Maybe it was during the battle at Xarcabard? And Haudrale shot that arrow to 'speeden things up' in their favor?