Union Drops

[Knyghtmayre]

It appears to work something like:

Every 2000 exp earned by a Union (as a whole) grants 1 item in the coffer.

500 exp earns you access to said coffer.

If the Union's total exp earned doesn't break 2000, no coffer will appear.

Thus, it is not always wise to go solo unless you somehow know you're joining in on a 2000~2500 exp fight. Also, it sucks for you to do 2000~3000exp worth of work, and have another douche join the Union late and do 600exp worth of effort, and yoinks your shit.

I was solo in Eron and got 305 EXP and access to coffer. Only a ladybug wing in it.

[Spekkio]

I was solo in Eron and got 305 EXP and access to coffer. Only a ladybug wing in it.

sustained. solo union, did NOT get 2k+ xp or AN (obviously the latter if the former) and i got a lynx hide as the only item in the crate. autosorted to me so either the other qualifying members left the zone or i was the only qualifying member.

[miokomioko]

Perhaps the item has a value of exp that it takes to make it appear in the chest, but I have had a number of experiences with doing 500~1500 exp solo and getting no coffer for my union whatsoever while a friend did 2000+ solo and got a lynx hide.

[Therin]

It appears to work something like:

Every 2000 exp earned by a Union (as a whole) grants 1 item in the coffer.

500 exp earns you access to said coffer.

If the Union's total exp earned doesn't break 2000, no coffer will appear.

Thus, it is not always wise to go solo unless you somehow know you're joining in on a 2000~2500 exp fight. Also, it sucks for you to do 2000~3000exp worth of work, and have another douche join the Union late and do 600exp worth of effort, and yoinks your only item that popped.

Yeah, I think these numbers are very arbitrary. It works something like this, but your numbers are way off.

It definitely only requires 250 EXP to access a chest. How much EXP/AN/overall contribution is needed to put items in the chest, who knows. We'll probably never figure that out.

[miokomioko]

It definitely only requires 250 EXP to access a chest.

I think there's a lot more calculation going on here than we think, I have been denied chest access at 400+ exp. What is the minimum tag duration required?

[terranova]

Eh, I've joined a union, did accession+Cure III and healed like 8 people for 214HP each, doing this twice. Nuked for abit(Thunder IV for 700+and all that mess). This was all in a span of 4 minutes I believe. Battle ends, I get 238 or so xp/an, and I'm denied the rights to lot.

;o

[Cyprias]

Maybe it's a % of the Total EXP possible to be gained in that Campaign battle in order to access the chest.

[arshesney]

In solo Union with 1080ish xp reward I found two itmes in chest (gnat wing and vitality potion).

In another battle 300ish xp did not warrant a shot at the spoils, 387 xp were enough.

It might also based on Allied Notes earned, I can't remember the actual amount for the solo battle, but it was above 50% xp.

[Arthars]

seem need loads of allied notes to unlock good items category..........

realised those 2 SS with divine lumbers are all from jugner forest......and yea that zone prolly got the most craziest AN ever per campaign..........

wouldnt suprised me if the 100 byne come from jugner as well.......but seeing its byne, perhaps it come from some bastok grounds

[Kaylia]

seem need loads of allied notes to unlock good items category..........

realised those 2 SS with divine lumbers are all from jugner forest......and yea that zone prolly got the most craziest AN ever per campaign..........

wouldnt suprised me if the 100 byne come from jugner as well.......but seeing its byne, perhaps it come from some bastok grounds

I'm not sure if it's included in the "good item" category, but earlier in Crawler Nest, I got the RDM Sword from a 2 players union. I can't tell how many point the other player got, but it was around 700xp in 10 minutes for me (was weakened most of the time).

I cant speak for bynes and divine lumbers, but weapon can definitively drop with a small/unproductive union.

Every 2000 exp earned by a Union (as a whole) grants 1 item in the coffer.

I got 2 items the other day in a solo union (dex potion + petrified log) in Ronfaure. I'm trying to remember how much xp I got, but I was on blm, and didnt get over 3.5k for sure (3500 is the max xp I got since the update). If I had to give you a number, I would say it was 1500 xp.


However, I did get the kill shot on the NM (stole it on purpose in case it increased dropm rate). I really hope it's a fluke, and kill shot doesn't do shit thought.

[Mots]

I was in a campaign in Crawlers nest for 2 and a half hours the other day and I was in my Union alone. When campaign ended I got 5k + exp and 8 items spawned in my chest. Nothing fantastic was inside. =/

[Zosi]

New pic from the Alla thread:

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6356/img0612.png

Slightly more credible than a cell phone pic, will be interesting to see if more start popping up.
http://img24.imageshack.us/i/img0612.png/

[Damane]

now the question is: Do bronzepieces only drop in sandi area, bynes only in bastok and shells only in windurst campaign areas?

Because that above seems to be Grauberg and in my sandi campaigns I have only seen bronzepieces!

[zantes]

now the question is: Do bronzepieces only drop in sandi area, bynes only in bastok and shells only in windurst campaign areas?

Because that above seems to be Grauberg and in my sandi campaigns I have only seen bronzepieces!

I've only seen currency drop in the appropriate regions so far. That doesn't mean it can't happen but it seems like what you stated is correct.

[Suiram]

Assuming it is an Exp or AN thing for determining items in chest, it's possible that they use "true" exp values, and not capped exp values.

For instance, join union, "earn" 2000/1000 in 7 min, battle ends so you earn 640exp/644AN (starlight medal). Will the game use the 2000/1000 or the 640/644 values when determining the items in the coffer (and for that matter, your right to lot on them)?

Also, doing actions past that particular individual cap. If some action you do caps at 300/150, but you do 700/350 worth of it over the duration of the campaign, which value is used for determining items (and again, your right to lot them).


Edit: These aren't questions I expect anyone to know the answer to. I meant to say it's something to keep in mind as we try to figure this aspect of it out.

[Arthars]

i strongly believe the "do more extraodinary shit" to get good stuffs like 100 currency

i thought 100 byne will replace 1 byne, but from the above SS, its not the case....which means 100 byne is considered as the "phat" loot in that union

but it could also be random? lol random is what FFXI is anyway

and i doubt SE will let us figure out this shit because if we do, every campaign = 505 currency

and watch it take the dip if we do

[Therin]

Nice to have 100 piece confirmation. Hope this keeps campaign popular. I'm guessing everyone should join the same unions. It feels like 20+ people would be more likely to secure enough contribution for a 100 than 4 unions of 5.

[Spekkio]

haven't the expensive drops like o ingot, 100 pieces, wootz, etc consistently occupied the top slot in the treasure pool? this would tend to indicate that there are clearly defined slots. it may be worth tracking not only what but in what slots things dropped.

[EternalSnow]

A m silver piece dropped in vhunklet inlet. I'll post a pic in a bit
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...723_094910.png

[Rocl]

Alright, it's time. 100 pieces dropping in campaign: CONFIRMED.