Union Drops

[Siniroth]

I can attest to this, I was in a Union by myself got about 4150 Exp, Killshotted 4 Mobs, including the "NM" (which was the MNK/SMN Yagudo <.<) and ended up with only 2 Items, Can't remember what they were but it was in Garlaige Citadel, probably just the zone specific junk ... Nothing like a MNK Weapon or anything

Kill shots do and don't matter.
Your union gets a kill: +1 item to the end coffer (based on mob killed)
Bob and Steve are in Dhole Union
Steve gets 5 kills
Bob gets 1 kill
End coffer result: 7 items (6 from their kills, 1 default)
Bob and Steve each lot for 7 items, even though bob only got 1 killshot.

If no one in Dhole union got a single kill, there would only be the zone item.

This is all based on observation

Edit: Lots are a crapshoot.

Sup which one is correct? screenshots at all?

[Karbuncle]

Sup which one is correct? screenshots at all?

I tried my Damnedest to find a Screenshot of that, But it appears i didn't take one... I know what i did and i know who i killed, and that i only ended up with 2 Items, But without a Screen shot there's no proof so eh ~.~

Pretty sure 1 was a Tukuku Shell, The other was probably the Garlaige Norm-Drop. I personally think each mob has a "Chance" to drop an Item just like every mob in the game does... meaning you can kill 3 mobs one day and get 3 Fay logs, kill the same three and only end up with 1 or 2 cause one or the other didn't drop.

Not saying Treasure Hunter effects it, im saying i think its like our current drop system, except its all hidden and pooled in the end.

[LordshadowRagnarok]

I tried my Damnedest to find a Screenshot of that, But it appears i didn't take one... I know what i did and i know who i killed, and that i only ended up with 2 Items, But without a Screen shot there's no proof so eh ~.~

Pretty sure 1 was a Tukuku Shell, The other was probably the Garlaige Norm-Drop. I personally think each mob has a "Chance" to drop an Item just like every mob in the game does... meaning you can kill 3 mobs one day and get 3 Fay logs, kill the same three and only end up with 1 or 2 cause one or the other didn't drop.

Not saying Treasure Hunter effects it, im saying i think its like our current drop system, except its all hidden and pooled in the end.

That could very well be true. It's incredibly rare to be in a solo union, so, I always gave wiggle room, the only thing I notice is that the NM always seems to drop SOMETHING. The normal mobs may not be a 100% drop of something though. I am, however, certain that there is a "Zone Drop" that will be the bottom item in a casket (provided that the casket hasn't been filled with real drops)
I'd doubt that Treasure Hunter would have an effect since TH doesn't effect box goods.

[Dmitry]

From Eldieme, I got a vit potion, gold ore, djinn arm, and an onyx all by myself, with at least 3 kill shots.

As a sort of aside, does it make me an asshole for ganking kill shots? lol

[Sepukku]

I was in Eldieme Necropolis (S) today and I was the only person in my union (only other person was in the zone, in a party with me, and he forgot to join a union). We had a loooooooooong campaign battle, in which I got the killshot on not only 3 regular orcs, but also Dethlord R(something). I finished with ~3500 XP, but I was stuck in some room (the center, north room) and couldn't make my way out to the coffer and in my haste trying to figure out the doors, I clicked some NPC and he said nothing, and I clicked a Brazier flame thing thinking it might open the door I needed and it warped me out of the zone. I was soooooooooooo pissed, thinking of all those drops that could've been mine.

[Dmitry]

Yeah, I hate going to Eldieme because of the doors. Last time I got the killshot on Battlemaster Vatgit so I was hoping for a chance at lotting the fane baselard, I had to warp out. I went and opened the doors so people could get to the intersection, then I got trapped and noone would help. I was so pissed.

[Dmitry]

I just got the killshot on Ga'Dho Softstep and the number 1 spot in the coffer was an agility potion. No dagger unfortunately.

[Dmitry]

As the only person in my union, I got a bronzepiece and a ladybug wing from East Ronfaure, kill shot on a dismemberment grappler.

[Siniroth]

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Anyway, I'll see if I can get a bunch of killshots later when I do my inevitable campaign bout tonight to see if I can find anything else out about drops and kills

[Benevolentone]

My friend who did lots of campaigning on his 72ish DRG commented that his performance seemed to affect his lots because he very rarely won anything when he joined large unions, but when me and him would duo unions and he got more xp he seemed to get better lots. Probably just placebo but worth noting maybe.

[Quince]

Just had two campaign battles in a row, the first one ending and the second one s tarting almost immediately (they were separated by the battle finishing and starting messages).

I got new tags for the second and went to union registration thinking that I was expelled from my original union by getting new tags, but when I joined a union again I was told that my lot to the union spoils had been revoked. Went on to battle like normal.

After if was finished though, 10 chests appeared and the message saying "You earned a claim to x union's spoils" appeared for each union twice. Anyone else have this happen to them?

Well i cant post the screen shot but the chests line up one in front of the other. But you cannot open the first set, so i think its a glitch.

[Valisk]

My friend who did lots of campaigning on his 72ish DRG commented that his performance seemed to affect his lots because he very rarely won anything when he joined large unions, but when me and him would duo unions and he got more xp he seemed to get better lots. Probably just placebo but worth noting maybe.

Wait wait wait. When your buddy was in large unions with heavy competition, he rarely won anything against 10-20 other people. But when it was just you and him and he had a 50% chance of winning, he seemed to do better?

Man that's awesome dude. Ancient Chinese secret.

[Gergall]

As a sort of aside, does it make me an asshole for ganking kill shots? lol

I'd say no. The majority of players are clueless. The rest are competing, doing the same thing as you.

[Daedalus]

Just wondering here - has anyone seen two currency drop in one pool? I haven't seen a screenshot yet in this thread of two, but when leaving Campaign last night I forgot about union, warped out to see the same guy lot twice on byne bills. Was just a first for me. It was in Grauberg

[Jesifromgaruda]

I'd say no. The majority of players are clueless. The rest are competing, doing the same thing as you.

I find that I have to get lucky to get a killshot when there are lots of people. In b4 "Thats because there are lots of people! DURRRR". Yeah, thats part of it, but another major part is lag. The other part is that everyone wants the killshot.

I find that I have to WS early. If I wait till he has a sliver of health, I wont even get a chance to WS. I usually do it around 8-10% (Guessing, I don't have windower). Due to lag and everyone and their mom trying to get the killshot, this sometimes works. But usually it's just a crapshoot and pure luck on who gets the kill.

[Liberta]

I dont even care what unions drop anymore.
In 2-3 weeks i have won 0 lots on dyna currency
and 0 lots on anything worth more than 2k
sooooo i fail

[Yeager]

Just finished a campaign in Batallia Downs [S] with Shadowhand and her Queer Asser friends.

I got killshot on Shadowhand, Ogre Sickle (BLM augmentable weapon) was in the top slot. That was the first time I had seen a weapon drop EVER.

[Sarial]

Just wondering here - has anyone seen two currency drop in one pool? I haven't seen a screenshot yet in this thread of two, but when leaving Campaign last night I forgot about union, warped out to see the same guy lot twice on byne bills. Was just a first for me. It was in Grauberg

Yes. No SS, but two O bronze pieces in Batallia today.

[Daedalus]

Yes. No SS, but two O bronze pieces in Batallia today.

Maybe then there is a way to engineer more currency dropping.

[Plow]

Have definitely seen 2 coins in one pool, not sure about 3.

Just finished a campaign in Batallia Downs [S] with Shadowhand and her Queer Asser friends.

I got killshot on Shadowhand, Ogre Sickle (BLM augmentable weapon) was in the top slot. That was the first time I had seen a weapon drop EVER.

...

Even the chick that carries and drops the BLM scythe, who melees and spams ws while spamming crazy spells knows better than to actually use it.