Yonin's 'Ninja Tool Expertise' broken?

[Yugl]

I know what your point is. One glitch does not mean that they don't test anything, it just means that something slipped through. Glitches always slip through. Thus why I say that it is ludicrous to think you will ever get a perfect patch. It doesn't happen in FFXI, it doesn't happen in MMOs, it doesn't happen in video games and it doesn't happen in life.

You almost got their point. They weren't simply stating that SE doesn't test their finished product. They were stating that their reason for believing this is because these glitches are priority checks for given item/abilities. For some of these issues I agree entirely with their reasoning. Considering SE's disdain for NPCing items for gil, this should have been the second check on the item after ensuring the stats are properly listed and in effect. For Yonin, I can understand that maybe they thought they were lucky when it was in fact 100% NTE. Some tests demand priority checks, and to let such priority checks go unchecked is a sign to the players that maybe they don't care.

Oh and for those who are unaware, "You don't know anything" is a classic Ringthree comeback along with double posts.

[Spider-Dan]

Odin? Kited Kirin (which a lot of shells still do)? Small-group JoL where you don't have the healing to back up a bunch of melees eating WSs after hate shifts?

That's 3 things right off the top of my head where I've heard people with multiple melee DD jobs told to come RNG.

May not be the best way to do any of those fights, but entirely workable and depending on who/how many are available, may in fact be the best compromise.

Let me explain it another way.

If you break down jobs in tiers of desirability*, you have jobs like:

PLD main
BRD main
RDM main
SAM main
WHM main
part-time BRD
BLM main

in the first tier, and then you have jobs like:

NIN main
WAR main
DRK main
part-time RDM
SCH main

in the second tier. In this kind of categorization, a situationalist job like pre-ZNM RNG is third-tier at best, maybe even fourth-tier. The only difference between then and now is that there are more situations where RNG is useful.

* these lists are not exhaustive