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  1. #421
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimagi View Post
    Gorgets have more accuracy than Torques, with the exception of Love Torque with a Polearm, and add damage to the first hit, which is usually more than any Attack or Modifier from the Torques.
    Is it straight up damage or fTP?

  2. #422
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    fTP

  3. #423
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    What would you summoners recommend as a bloodpact to use on Odin? Predator Claws?
    What would you say an average geared/partially meritted SMN's average BP damage is for that fight?

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    Would it be beneficial or detrimental to use Askar Body to make a Rajas-less 6 hit build on my DRK or SAM?

    My current TP gear is as follows:

    (Accuracy+8 augment on Coeurl Gorget)
    FFXIGEAR.com DRK

    FFXIGEAR.com WAR

  5. #425
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    Store TP strap + either chiv chain instead of couerl gorget, or ecphoria instead of ulth's ring

    Would be a much better trade imo

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    Does STP+6 create a 6hit with a 501 delay scythe? Thought it needed +7. >_>

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    There's never a good reason to wear Askar Korazin...

  8. #428
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimagi View Post
    There's never a good reason to wear Askar Korazin...
    I disagree

  9. #429
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimagi View Post
    Gorgets have more accuracy than Torques, with the exception of Love Torque with a Polearm, and add damage to the first hit, which is usually more than any Attack or Modifier from the Torques.
    Ah, thank you, that makes sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drex View Post
    What would you summoners recommend as a bloodpact to use on Odin? Predator Claws?
    What would you say an average geared/partially meritted SMN's average BP damage is for that fight?
    Our summoners use predator claws, though spinning dive is usually fine too. If you have the accuracy to land PC for ~500+ each time then go with that. The smn you describe would most likely be hitting for 300-500 PC on average with a small chance of whiffing entirely. Really depends on how much +acc and +smn skill gear you have on when the BP goes off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silenka View Post
    Ah, thank you, that makes sense.



    Our summoners use predator claws, though spinning dive is usually fine too. If you have the accuracy to land PC for ~500+ each time then go with that. The smn you describe would most likely be hitting for 300-500 PC on average with a small chance of whiffing entirely. Really depends on how much +acc and +smn skill gear you have on when the BP goes off.
    SMN I talked to said 1k on PC. She might have just been lying though.

  11. #431
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    I see numbers anywhere from 500s to over 1k (and not lower than that), but I honestly believe that 1k is crits on Odin. Average damage from me and the other extremely well-geared smn in my ls is 500-600ish. I've never done over 1.5k on Odin with garuda before. She might have meant her highest damage was 1k, but I highly doubt that's the average.

  12. #432
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirya View Post
    Easymac does that for you. As either a txt file for a windower macro or a spellcast set-up. Very handy program.

    EasyMac - Windower
    Link in the OP is dead, there's another link on the last page, but is it any good?

  13. #433
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphus View Post
    Does STP+6 create a 6hit with a 501 delay scythe? Thought it needed +7. >_>
    For a 6hit from 0, you need STP+23 total to reach >100% TP (/SAM & STP+8 ).

    /SAM & STP+5 would require a full return on Guillotine/Insurgency to make a 5 hit from WS.

    /SAM & STP+6 needs 3 hits to land from Guillotine/Insurgency.

    /SAM & STP+7 will get you there with 2 hits from Guillotine/Insurgency.

  14. #434
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    Does Blood Weapon drain deal additional damage (thus doubling your damage), or is it like Drain Samba?

    And if it is like Drain Samba, was it ever the other way?

    For some reason I recall taking massive hits from DRKs during SP months ago, but in multiple instances in Dynamis, the DRK 2hr doesn't seem to be doing extra damage lately. I take hate more than I used to lately, so maybe its been this way for a while and I just haven't been taking hits to notice.

  15. #435
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    Has anyone see double N. Legs drop from Nidhogg? Asking because our LS leader joked that our next Nid would drop something and I suggested N. Legs since that what's he dropped the last two times, but neither of us has actually seen a double N. Leg pool.

    @Vyvian, it's not additional damage.

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    Was it ever though? We talked about dyna mobs doing it to you in the past?

  17. #437
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    Wait, are you saying your Fort axe never swings three times?

    Cause... that is a job trait double activating on the same round as a virtue stone double... what am I missing here?
    Sorry, I shouldn't have used the term "stack." What I meant is that there is this peculiar idea that you can get DA on both the original swing *in a single attack round* and the extra swing (jailer/virtue weapon property) for four possible swings per round.

    It is easy to amass evidence against the possibility of a four-attack round, but from experience the proportion of three-hit rounds with Fortitude Axe is quite a bit higher than expected (yes, statistically significant) under the assumption that DA procs only on the original hit.

  18. #438
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    Quote Originally Posted by nekura View Post
    Has anyone see double N. Legs drop from Nidhogg? Asking because our LS leader joked that our next Nid would drop something and I suggested N. Legs since that what's he dropped the last two times, but neither of us has actually seen a double N. Leg pool.

    @Vyvian, it's not additional damage.
    Double N.Leg is very possible.

  19. #439
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    1. Is Savage Blade even worth bothering with getting/using vs Vorpal?

    2. Why are 95% of the people in this game absolutely braindead retarded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Q View Post
    1. Is Savage Blade even worth bothering with getting/using vs Vorpal?

    2. Why are 95% of the people in this game absolutely braindead retarded?
    1. No, maybe for SCing since it makes Light with Atonement if no real DD are there.

    2. Because 95% of people in the world are braindead retarded and it just transfers into game.

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