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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    SE - RDM BRD DD, DD needs several types of weapons
    What's the actual strategy here?

    Floor1: Easy stuff
    Floor2: Kill for 2hr Chest; kill till NM 2hrs; sleep the NM; and kill the NM after?
    Floor3: Clear for 2hr Chest or all of them? Kite NM? What if both DDs charmed? Handle Agas with Lullaby?
    Floor4: East stuff

    My biggest concern is floor 3 since it seems like a time killer to clear the floor/deal with the NM.

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    Just did a Silver Sea Remnants run and our Monk was intimidating the mobs on the first and second floor. Checked his gear and didn't see any Undead Killer stuff and the only piece I noticed that looked out of the ordinary were Hades Sainti. I checked the recipe and saw they used Cerberus Claws, so I'm willing to bet that's where it came from, but can anyone else verify or corroborate this?

  3. #63
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    Did your monk eat a Marinara Pizza? Because that food item does give Undead Killer.

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    Had completely forgotten about that being on the pizza, but he's already logged so I'll have to ask him next time I see him on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    What's the actual strategy here?

    Floor1: Easy stuff
    Floor2: Kill for 2hr Chest; kill till NM 2hrs; sleep the NM; and kill the NM after?
    Floor3: Clear for 2hr Chest or all of them? Kite NM? What if both DDs charmed? Handle Agas with Lullaby?
    Floor4: East stuff

    My biggest concern is floor 3 since it seems like a time killer to clear the floor/deal with the NM.
    floor 1 and 2 are set mobs for time and 2h chests, can just kill those and skip the rest.. floor 3 you kill all the skeles(they go down rather fast, just mp sinky and make sure to finale spikes), floor 4 you kill all as well
    The corse on floor 3 can be silenced, and if your DD gets charmed you can just kite easily with the floor cleared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    floor 1 and 2 are set mobs for time and 2h chests, can just kill those and skip the rest.. floor 3 you kill all the skeles(they go down rather fast, just mp sinky and make sure to finale spikes), floor 4 you kill all as well
    The corse on floor 3 can be silenced, and if your DD gets charmed you can just kite easily with the floor cleared.
    Sounds like a plan then. Would a duo of DRK and DRK be best or DRK and DRG? Those are pretty much the only people we can spare for those runs. For some reason, our WHM and RDM were unable to silence the Corse NM, but I've landed Silence 100% (Thus far) on SCH.

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    Does popping an Elite Training NM remove level sync?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Sounds like a plan then. Would a duo of DRK and DRK be best or DRK and DRG? Those are pretty much the only people we can spare for those runs. For some reason, our WHM and RDM were unable to silence the Corse NM, but I've landed Silence 100% (Thus far) on SCH.
    You only need RDM BRD DD, but DRG's blunt polearm is broken atm and I don't think DRK gets any piercing/blunt weapons worth using, so I'd say DRK and DRG as bringing only one type of weapon is autofail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    You only need RDM BRD DD, but DRG's blunt polearm is broken atm and I don't think DRK gets any piercing/blunt weapons worth using, so I'd say DRK and DRG as bringing only one type of weapon is autofail.
    Forgot about the lolbroken update. DRK has Crude Sword, which my DRK says is blunt, so that might work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Forgot about the lolbroken update. DRK has Crude Sword, which my DRK says is blunt, so that might work?
    fair enough, but iirc the update fucked them all up ;-; Never knew about crude sword before

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    You only need RDM BRD DD, but DRG's blunt polearm is broken atm and I don't think DRK gets any piercing/blunt weapons worth using, so I'd say DRK and DRG as bringing only one type of weapon is autofail.
    Crude Sword is a blunt great sword so they have two weapons types afaik.
    Edit: beaten didn't see the other post dammit.

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    So now with the creation of Rose Strap, I believe it's possible for DRGs to achieve six hit without Askar Korazin yeah? If so, wouldn't it be more reasonable to use Nuevo and put ACC+10 as an augment on it? I'm still debating on what the other augment should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcicus View Post
    So now with the creation of Rose Strap, I believe it's possible for DRGs to achieve six hit without Askar Korazin yeah? If so, wouldn't it be more reasonable to use Nuevo and put ACC+10 as an augment on it? I'm still debating on what the other augment should be.
    Need to use Ech Ring if you plan on that. Rose Strap is not enough (Unless you have Vork).

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    Just land 2+ hits of Penta/Drakes including the first and you're gold, TPing and WSing in /sam, Rajas, Brutal + Rose Strap.

    And yes, use Rose Strap + accuracy body (Homam Corazza etc) for DRG I would say. Even though DRG has the acc bonus traits, never hurts to ensure you're capped.

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    this would work for 5 hit on rng right?
    (taking into account the mirke body is +4 store tp and snapshot)
    TP(working on it need the rank for rose strap and the skadi pants)
    FFXIGEAR.com

    if that works would i keep my 5 hit still on this ws gear?
    (desired ws gear for sidewinder)
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    i was planning to put another piece Pahluwan seraweels in but i think i would lose the 5 hit?
    oh yeah the helm is(+4 str +15 weapon skill accu and +10 range accu +5 range attack)

    how many stp i need if i am subbing sam for tp and how much for ws? to be able to keep it.

    it appears i will be able to keep it easily if i use selenes bow but not on ebow

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTaru View Post
    Nothing, the chest sits there and despawns after the time limit if you don't accept it.


    Question of my own: I'm not sure if there are any other items that would meet the criteria to be augmentable other than Tredecim Scythe but, can items with hidden effects not be augmented? Or is Tred just some unique snowflake? >_>
    I'm wondering the same.

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    Do half hour emergency maints on selected zones reset NM timers in that zone?

    Was discussing it with linkshell people and one of them said "Well one time it did". Figured I would ask here..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    Just looking at that and seeing how outdated it is, felt like posting the lowest setups I've done reliably:

    Apollyon
    NW - BLM BLM, can be soloed but requires luck or exceptional gear
    SW - BLM BRD, can be soloed but requires luck or exceptional gear
    NE - BLM RDM WAR can win reliably, RDM and BLM duo most of the zone, RDM and WAR duo the 3f pot and the 4f melee immune gigas if others don't pop portal
    SE - RDM BRD DD, DD needs several types of weapons
    Omega - Tankx2 RDM BRD BLM BLM

    Temenos
    West - RDM BRD DD DD, kill one mob per floor until last
    North - RDM BRD DD DD, clear basically everything except ton floor
    East - BLM BLM BLM RDM, can maybe cut down one more
    C1 - RDM BRD DD DD
    C2 - RDM BRD DD DD - RDM or BRD sub smn to single pull light elementals
    C3 - RDM BRD DD DD - RDM or BRD sub smn to single pull bosses, or have brd sac
    ultima - Tank x2 RDM BRD BLM BLM - BLM BLM, can be cut down but it helps having extra blm at the end
    I don't think I've seen a SW solo before, I can get to the mimic easily on Blm, but it wrecks me. Even casting in damage down gear until the spell is about to go off with stoneskin up and then fonting after that I'll get killed before anything that I can remember being close to a win. Blmx2 duo is pretty easy though. I vaguely remember someone saying they can do it on Rdm, but I don't remember where.

    Except for Central Temenos, which I take 6 to, I've done the rest.

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    Do half hour emergency maints on selected zones reset NM timers in that zone?

    Was discussing it with linkshell people and one of them said "Well one time it did". Figured I would ask here..
    I'd like to know this as well, although my inclination is yes it does. If you use app's radar2, you'd notice the SW/DI dead bodies have disappeared.

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    Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.

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