What's Better?

[Fyrebrand]

Cerb +1 or Cuch mantle on nin with pretty much max gear eating pizza

TP
Main: Kikoku
Off: Perdu Blade
Head: Turban
Neck: Ancient torque or Hope Torque
Hands: Dusk +1
Waist: V belt
Legs: Byakko Haidate
Ammo: Bomblet
Rings: Sniper+1 Rajas
Feet: Usukane Sune-ate
Earrings: Suppa and Brutal
Ws etc

[mdkuser]

Cerb +1 or Cuch mantle on nin with pretty much max gear eating pizza

TP
Main: Kikoku
Off: Perdu Blade
Head: Turban
Neck: Ancient torque or Hope Torque
Hands: Dusk +1
Waist: V belt
Legs: Byakko Haidate
Ammo: Bomblet
Rings: Sniper+1 Rajas
Feet: Usukane Sune-ate
Earrings: Suppa and Brutal
Ws etc

what body are you using? My unmerited ninja needs cuchu mantle even with sushi ( mamoolja camps), using af+1 body. So i'd say a fully merited ninja can go with pizza, af+1 body and still have to use cuchu.

[Starr]

Look:
FFXIGEAR.com
Even with the best of gear (excluding full Usu which might be better) and Pizza+1, adding about 14 accuracy from 8 Katana merits you would only have 420 Accuracy.

[Starr]

This is much better already:
FFXIGEAR.com

[mdkuser]

Dont forget innin/yonnin.

[Starr]

I don't even know what he's fighting but I wouldn't say you can make use of Yonin all the time.

[Fyrebrand]

sorry i am not very good with all the math involved mmj camp is a fine assumption with full time innin you think i could get away with Nin chainmail+1 and gear already listed? yonin is bad for merit lowes acc

[Ned]

Look:
Even with the best of gear (excluding full Usu which might be better) and Pizza+1, adding about 14 accuracy from 8 Katana merits you would only have 420 Accuracy.

Do people really shoot for more than 420 though? I'd thought looking at the list of mob accuracy capped recently posted (mattrocks.net/matt/ffxi/other/endgame accuracy in merit.txt) that there were only a few mobs where 420 wasn't going to cut it. NIN and THF basically which, out of cycling through 20+ mobs there, are a small percentage. Whereas the attack and str would help on all those other mobs you are capped accuracy on. Foragers I would have though best overall, cerb similar (if you have it anyway why not)?

Cuchu seems a bit overkill to get for 2 mobs? I know with spellcast you could use different gear for those easier mobs but then aren't you saying you spend 3m for 2 occasional mobs. I accept on those mobs it would be an improvement in accuracy of course. How much extra damage would the 15 attack give you on the other 94/100 hits you aren't getting. Doesn't it balance that 1 miss, or very nearly at least?

[Dathus]

Currently using:
FFXIGEAR.com
Oilys are from my COR(I saw the ACC and DEX and figured why the hell not over AF+1 pants).

Curious if I should really focus my build on birds to the 117 DEX as an Elvaan, what with my crap-ass base DEX and all. If I DID it would be...

FFXIGEAR.com

This, realistic gear anyway.

Not sure if I should gimp myself earring-wise(Wouldn't Brutal be better overall?) and aim for this, or just pile on STR instead. Thoughts?

[mdkuser]

Do people really shoot for more than 420 though? I'd thought looking at the list of mob accuracy capped recently posted (mattrocks.net/matt/ffxi/other/endgame accuracy in merit.txt) that there were only a few mobs where 420 wasn't going to cut it. NIN and THF basically which, out of cycling through 20+ mobs there, are a small percentage. Whereas the attack and str would help on all those other mobs you are capped accuracy on. Foragers I would have though best overall, cerb similar (if you have it anyway why not)?

Cuchu seems a bit overkill to get for 2 mobs? I know with spellcast you could use different gear for those easier mobs but then aren't you saying you spend 3m for 2 occasional mobs. I accept on those mobs it would be an improvement in accuracy of course. How much extra damage would the 15 attack give you on the other 94/100 hits you aren't getting. Doesn't it balance that 1 miss, or very nearly at least?

420 is more than enough. you will cap on all but lurkers/nin and the highest level blu. At that point adding 1 acc wont be 0.5% hit rate because the extra acc will only be used during evasion boost moves and lurkers/ninja, so its wasted. thats why cuchu is not good for jobs like sam war etc, or at least, is just a situational piece for lurkers. It's much more usefull for ninja,Thf etc, because they are A- non 2handers, and tehy cant come close to 420 without cuchu unless they give up haste/dual wield.

[Starr]

Yeah I guess 420 is plenty for what you're gonna melee as NIN, Crab Sushi for Birds.

[Fogo]

In campaign only (obviously):
bull necklace (str 25) or sea gorget for ws's like KJ and RR? str 25 is a big freakin chunk and i'm interested in how it stacks up against gorgets.

still curious about this (got lost in the last page)

[Starr]

Bull Necklace

[Fridell]

420 ACC on NIN is good, full Usu NIN sucks, mix / match go. Still want to keep DPS.

[Starr]

420 ACC on NIN is good, full Usu NIN sucks, mix / match go. Still want to keep DPS.

oh yeah, I thought FFXI gear wasn't picking u the set bonus haste for some reason and thought it gave 24% not 19% Haste lol

[Fridell]

The first set you created is what I would use personally (if I had Usu body / Kikoku & Ancient Torque..) and with Pizza (meat sometimes as well) easy enough to swap away Usu for Ninja Chainmail +1 / Mirke DW Augmented hitting mobs in Limbus / Nyzul / Dynamis and the likes.

[DNAval]

Haubergeon +1 VS Usukane Haramaki
Forgetting the fact that Usu got STP +6, is losing 12 att. A major dent on my damage output?
Am I losing 1-4% off my parser or losing 10-12% off my parser ?
Because if im losing 1-4% off my parser … fuck it I rather look cool.

btw I'm a sam.

[Raen Ryong]

12atk will be slightly greater than 2.4% DoT only for the TP phase, higher depending on how many levels above you the target is (and this is assuming a base attack of ~500).

[DNAval]

sweet so good bye hauby+1, rather look cool than just like everyone else.

[Cream Soda]

Sam split is generally 30/70 so if you haven't chopped it down by now Raen
2.4 x .3 = .73% increase