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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenmonk View Post
    ok 17% more WSs, which makes up 70% of a sam's dmg, better?
    Not calling that a correct or incorrect figure but
    17 x .7 = 11.9% increase, if you're counting it as 17% increase in ws rate and 70% of a sam's damage.

    So yea lol there's a pretty large diff between 17% increase in dmg and 17% increase in ws dmg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    I am much more inclined to do Fey Weapons than I am to do FoV. You get five chances per weapon, the weapons aren't that expensive, the fights are fun and you always get a reward even if you don't get a weapon (even if that reward is totally crappy).
    I agree; I cannot imagine paying for 16 Fay Lances at 100k/Lance (Going price at the time). Every time I think about doing FoV, I just keep thinking about other items my gil could go towards.

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    Guillotine WS set between these 3 builds: (no scythe merits)

    Full Ares: 414 ACC, 564 ATT, 118 STR, 14% DA
    http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...neFullAres.png

    Mix Match Ares: 409 ACC, 546 ATT, 128 STR, 7% DA
    http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...ixMatchSet.png

    Mix Match Haub: 414 ACC, 547 ATT, 126 STR, 7% DA
    http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...xMatchHaub.png

    Definitely leaning heavily toward the full Ares (~20 extra ATT, 7% DA, best ACC options at the cost of 8-10STR), but was always under the assumption there were better possible mix match builds for Guillotine (I rarely use DRK >_<). Barring N. Head/ E. Body, I don't see a lot of room for improvement in the mix/match set w/o giving up a lot of accuracy. Anyone have an example of a better mix match build for non merited, non EBody DRK?

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    What's better: MKDT Helm with STR +6 or STR +4, WS Damage +2% for Y/G/K and Kaiten? Im assuming its 4 STR, 2% WS damage unless someone can crunch some numbers. Assume top of the line WS gear.

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    4 STR 2% WS Damage.

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    Full Ares but shit you would need more accuracy than that for Mamools etc, Fire Bomblet and Cuch mantle I would change at least, probably an Accuracy Ring too (ideally Ulth/Divisor/Mars or a STR ring with augmented Accuracy).

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    Yea those sets are only for Bird camp accuracy lvls atm. The full Ares is easy to push to 450+ ACC just by adding Abyss cape, Bomblet, & Toreador.

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    but you can't pizza+1 on birds unless you are rich and have lots of inventory.... you lose 35~ acc with meat kabobs/etc

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    It's for bird camp accuracy lvls - i.e. situations where 400ish is all thats needed - which is why each of those gear sets was built around that same accuracy level. I don't use DRK at birds. Accuracy gear is obviously adjusted depending on the situation, I am trying to see if full Ares's will be the best all around Guillotine set that a non ebody/n.legs DRK can get at this point.

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    Guess you have 8 GKT 8 Archery, any Scythe merits?

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    No, 0 Scythe merits. The Haub build has easy options to boost an additional 29 ACC (Abyss Cape, Toreador, Potent Belt) w/o sacrificing much, while the full Ares's can boost 35 ACC w/o much sacrifice (same as Haub + swapping in Fire Bomblet). So given the best possible choices outside of EBody/NLeg mix match builds + no merits, I don't see how I can top the full Ares's build under high or low accuracy need situations. Have very little experience on DRK, I was just always under the assumption that full Ares's was Catastrophe only, while mix match was usually better for Guillotine - but this could stem from most conversations about Guillotine usually including EBody.

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    Astute Cape (Singing +5) or Jester's Cape +1 (CHR +10)? Can only choose one, currently have CHR 64+35 and Singing 225+19.

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    Using the gear you've shown Drace I'd probably use this and be happy:
    FFXIGEAR.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starr View Post
    Using the gear you've shown Drace I'd probably use this and be happy:
    FFXIGEAR.com
    Hmmm dunno, the difference between that and the full ares is 20 attack, 5% DA on the Ares, vs. 6STR on that mix/match build. Probably pretty close in terms of potential, but I would still lean toward the Ares stats I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalandor46 View Post
    Astute Cape (Singing +5) or Jester's Cape +1 (CHR +10)? Can only choose one, currently have CHR 64+35 and Singing 225+19.
    Why can you only choose one? Correct answer is Jester+1 for debuffs and Astute for march/madrigal. If you're really insistent on full timing one, I'd say Astute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drace View Post
    Hmmm dunno, the difference between that and the full ares is 20 attack, 5% DA on the Ares, vs. 6STR on that mix/match build. Probably pretty close in terms of potential, but I would still lean toward the Ares stats I think.
    hmm yeah that set was 418 acc too and you wanna be closer to 400? You need heca cap really, can't you buy one for 2m on your server?

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    Yea its just extremely low priority for me atm, don't do Kings either so unless there is a mad streak of N. Head luck in Einherjar, I probably won't be getting it anytime soon x_x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drace View Post
    Yea its just extremely low priority for me atm, don't do Kings either so unless there is a mad streak of N. Head luck in Einherjar, I probably won't be getting it anytime soon x_x
    i think you just need to play around with it.

    just go for whatever is the most consistent. this was my average with 0 scythe, and we pretty much have almost same/identical gear. i never got to finish ares tho , i just needed legs and head!
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    this was a parse done by someone else in the pty. i never had the patience for it
    http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4602/guillo.jpg

    i dont think its too bad

    ebody is no big deal, i parsed like this when i had a haub+1. but heca head is nice as hell lol and i consider it a better upgrade obviously. dont worry, youll get it sooner or later! but i always respected drk. you never needed an apoc to get those kind of averages. that was with a 2 bard pty lol. i outparsed this guy named Cecil who was also an apoc DRK and stayed tied with my LS leader as well. the thing i like about apoc is just the efficiency of it. but regular DRKs can keep pretty good.

    edit: if it means anything or contributes at all, the camp was Jade.

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    Just had to second that, at one point I remember doing Dyna and shit with an ally full of ebodies, before I had Nhead, I felt kinda out of place, after it... not so much.

    This was before the moogle head though, which is hax.

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    What's better for DoT Dia3 or Bio3?
    and what's the dmg/tck for dia3? since it's not on wiki

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