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    Hey guys, just trying to get some opinions on where my WAR gear could improve and since I need 10 posts to post URLs, I am going to type it all out...

    TP Setup:
    Main: Byakko's Axe
    Grip: Pole Grip
    Ammo: Bomb Core
    Head: Askar Zucchetto
    Neck: Fortitude Torque
    Ear 1: Assault Earring
    Ear 2: Brutal Earring
    Body: Askar Korazin
    Hands: Dusk Gloves
    Ring 1: Ulthalum's Ring
    Ring 2: Rajas Ring
    Back: Forager's Mantle
    Waist: Swift Belt
    Legs: Byakko's Haidate
    Feet: Aurum Sabatons

    RR Setup:
    Main: Byakko's Axe
    Grip: Pole Grip
    Ammo: Bomb Core
    Head: Askar Zucchetto
    Neck: Snow Gorget
    Ear 1: Triumph Earring
    Ear 2: Brutal Earring
    Body: Hecatomb Harness
    Hands: Alkyoneus's Bracelets
    Ring 1: Flame Ring
    Ring 2: Rajas Ring
    Back: Forager's Mantle
    Waist: Warwolf Belt
    Legs: Byakko's Haidate
    Feet: Hecatomb Leggings

    KJ Setup:
    Main: Byakko's Axe
    Grip: Pole Grip
    Ammo: Bomb Core
    Head: Askar Zucchetto
    Neck: Snow Gorget
    Ear 1: Triumph Earring
    Ear 2: Brutal Earring
    Body: Hecatomb Harness
    Hands: Alkyoneus's Bracelets
    Ring 1: Flame Ring
    Ring 2: Rajas Ring
    Back: Forager's Mantle
    Waist: Potent Belt
    Legs: Warrior's Cuisses
    Feet: Hecatomb Leggings

    Steel Cyclone Setup:
    Main: Byakko's Axe
    Grip: Pole Grip
    Ammo: Bomb Core
    Head: Genbu's Kabuto
    Neck: Snow Gorget
    Ear 1: Triumph Earring
    Ear 2: Brutal Earring
    Body: Hecatomb Harness
    Hands: Warrior's Mufflers
    Ring 1: Flame Ring
    Ring 2: Rajas Ring
    Back: Forager's Mantle
    Waist: Potent Belt
    Legs: Warrior's Cuisses
    Feet: Hecatomb Leggings

    I am currently in an Assault set working on ranking up for my Perdu Voulge. But other than that I am completely open for suggestions to improve my gear.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silversonic_11 View Post
    Uhh....Usukane Somen. I've been told it's worthless for an Ace's SAM, and only used for MNK when Focus is down. Is it used over Turban on NIN as a TP piece? If so is it really worth it?, I'm contemplating whether I should be spending the money if I don't have full Usukane.
    For MNK you want full Usukane (So get it if you're already doing Salvage). SAM is better off in a mixed set for damage unless you need the EVAs. If you don't need the EVAs, don't want to tank on SAM, and don't care about gearing up MNK, then you might as well not bother.

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    Just quoting your post and commenting after items, too tired to do it in a more fashionable way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Waraurochs View Post
    Hey guys, just trying to get some opinions on where my WAR gear could improve and since I need 10 posts to post URLs, I am going to type it all out...

    TP Setup:
    Main: Byakko's Axe fine, RC when getting refresh, Fort axe when burning stones, try and get a good Erlking's for a Byakko+1
    Grip: Pole Grip fine but get Claymore for harder stuff (basically, PDIF under 1.5)
    Ammo: Bomb Core work on Bomblet gil
    Head: Askar Zucchetto no, use Turban
    Neck: Fortitude Torque meh, PCC is better unless you cap ACC and if you do the einherjar beads are better
    Ear 1: Assault Earring fine but working minuet is better (Hollow is too but ethereal is better for other jobs, I usually assume no Hollow)
    Ear 2: Brutal Earring
    Body: Askar Korazin nope; Haub (+1)
    Hands: Dusk Gloves
    Ring 1: Ulthalum's Ring meh, usually a Woodsman does better (not to mention HQ sniper/tor) and Blitz ring is an option if your haste and ACC are high
    Ring 2: Rajas Ring
    Back: Forager's Mantle sure but work on Cuchulain's in the long run, let it be your first 3M item (before HQ haub and HQ sniper)
    Waist: Swift Belt
    Legs: Byakko's Haidate
    Feet: Aurum Sabatons

    RR Setup:
    Main: Byakko's Axe
    Grip: Pole Grip
    Ammo: Bomb Core (again, bomblet)
    Head: Askar Zucchetto, fine especially if that DEX means +crit but Ohat if your ACC isn't capped probably beat it
    Neck: Snow Gorget
    Ear 1: Triumph Earring, could sell it because a working minuet, assault, or hollow works better
    Ear 2: Brutal Earring
    Body: Hecatomb Harness nope, use a Haub
    Hands: Alkyoneus's Bracelets nope, use Heca
    Ring 1: Flame Ring, ACC ring if uncapped hitrate
    Ring 2: Rajas Ring
    Back: Forager's Mantle (again Cuch blabla)
    Waist: Warwolf Belt
    Legs: Byakko's Haidate
    Feet: Hecatomb Leggings

    KJ Setup:
    Main: Byakko's Axe
    Grip: Pole Grip
    Ammo: Bomb Core (bomblet blabla)
    Head: Askar Zucchetto (same ohat comment)
    Neck: Snow Gorget
    Ear 1: Triumph Earring
    Ear 2: Brutal Earring
    Body: Hecatomb Harness
    Hands: Alkyoneus's Bracelets
    Ring 1: Flame Ring (same ACC ring comment)
    Ring 2: Rajas Ring
    Back: Forager's Mantle (same Cuch comment)
    Waist: Potent Belt
    Legs: Warrior's Cuisses
    Feet: Hecatomb Leggings

    Steel Cyclone Setup, halt! It is my understanding SC gains a great deal of ACC since it's a 1H-WS. Proceeding under this assumption
    Main: Byakko's Axe
    Grip: Pole Grip
    Ammo: Bomb Core (this time, yes)
    Head: Genbu's Kabuto
    Neck: Snow Gorget
    Ear 1: Triumph Earring
    Ear 2: Brutal Earring
    Body: Hecatomb Harness, Osode's better but if you get an Osode now, sell it and buy other stuff first, SC isn't used much
    Hands: Warrior's Mufflers nope, use Alky
    Ring 1: Flame Ring
    Ring 2: Rajas Ring
    Back: Forager's Mantle
    Waist: Potent Belt no use Warwolf
    Legs: Warrior's Cuisses
    Feet: Hecatomb Leggings

    I am currently in an Assault set working on ranking up for my Perdu Voulge. But other than that I am completely open for suggestions to improve my gear.

    Thanks
    Quick recommendations:
    - TPing in more haste and more ACC
    - More DEX and ACC on RR
    - More ACC on KJ
    - More STR and VIT on SC
    - I would sell Flame Ring, Triumph Earring and buy Haub, Bomblet and work towards Cuch

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    @ Waraurochs;

    Perdu Voulge as you mentioned would be nice.

    TP: Fire bomblet is a better choice than bomb core in most cases. If you dont need its accuracy, you might as well use Turban instead of Askar, change that I would advise anyway in any close to cap or high haste situation. PCC is generally better than Fort. Torque but you can use your money towards the bomblet before changing the neck piece. Haubergeon/+1 for sure... Askar only for really weak stuff like nyzul normal mobs. Cuch. Mantle would be nice. V. Belt, Dusk+1 is stuff you should aim for, eventually ^^;

    RR: Try and get Heca. Head when possible as it has no rival, although Askar/Aurum are reasonable. Bomblet in many cases. Heca hands. You will need more Dex in some areas, situationally, but most of the stuff is ok and you got the right idea.

    KJ: Heca. Head, Bomblet situationally, a correct sea gorget such as Soil. Warrior's Stone and Hachi. Legs eventually. Good idea here once again, except for the gorget which is possibly a typo!

    Steel Cyclone: Good job here as well, improvements are mostly covered in the previous ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinryuu View Post
    Just quoting your post and commenting after items, too tired to do it in a more fashionable way.



    Quick recommendations:
    - TPing in more haste and more ACC
    - More DEX and ACC on RR
    - More ACC on KJ
    - More STR and VIT on SC
    - I would sell Flame Ring, Triumph Earring and buy Haub, Bomblet and work towards Cuch
    Sorry, not sure why I typed Bomb Core, but I TP in a Fire Bomblet. But I will take all of your suggestions into consideration and see how it goes. I have/had most of the gear you have suggested at one point so I'll see if I can pull it back together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darlantan View Post
    KJ: Heca. Head, Bomblet situationally, a correct sea gorget such as Soil. Warrior's Stone and Hachi. Legs eventually. Good idea here once again, except for the gorget which is possibly a typo!
    Yeah, I was Copy/pasting and didn't change my neck piece, but I SC in the Fort Torque

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    for RR at birds your magic dex number is 117/118 keep that in mind when gearing for RR on birds and the lower evasion mamools (blu's drg's, war's etc) equally blah blah

    being elvaan i actually have to use a thunder ring to hit that number lmao. Someone in a pick up party called me a noob about it as well, then the ffxi gods let me do a near 2500+ RR <.<

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    Skoffins also have a very low AGI, and Sea Puks, mamool pets so when camping Mamool Ja you can still have a capped crit hit rate on most mobs.

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    PLD:
    Explain to me why Lamian Kaman is used over Rosenbogen or even Bibiki Seashell.

    Ok, im a newly 75 PLD who raced from 37 in two weeks, so my gear is all AH and AF atm. And yes, shit is situational, I know, different mobs, different pieces.

    But explain to me why PLDs I see are wearing Lamain when they have no other MDB gear on, and why they shouldnt be using one of the other two? As far as im concerned Rosen is the better out of the three.

    MDB+1 is only -1%, so for a 100dmg spell, it's only going to reduce it down to 99dmg. Now when youre fighting a very magic heavy mob, and have lots of MDB equip on, great, that 1% would be we welcome in most cases I think then. Im not going to factor in the MP because im a mithra w/ full mp merits, and really, how often are PLD at full mp to make that 10mp even worth while?

    Now with Shell, it's just VIT+4, but even that seems better than MDB+1. With the 2VIT=1DEF thing, thats 2 extra DEF, which is soso, but better than nothing. Im likely to believe that 4VIT will reduce more dmg over time than 1MDB.

    Rosen I feel is the best as it has VIT and HP, while the HP isnt the best being only 10, I guess it's nice for when you swap in +HP gear to self cure, and again the VIT is a nice touch.

    So explain to me, what a PLD, that just hit 75, with meh gear, doesnt have any situational stuff yet, should use as a 'full time' piece when fighting mostly melee mobs.

    Forgive any lol-ness, full time mage to 'hey, pld sounds cool' so my knowledge in that department is still quite huuuur atm. Id a 3 week vacation, and wanted to knock out the leveling part of it during that time, and worry about perfecting it after. So yeah, please correct my idiocywhere it arises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limlight View Post
    for RR at birds your magic dex number is 117/118 keep that in mind when gearing for RR on birds and the lower evasion mamools (blu's drg's, war's etc) equally blah blah

    being elvaan i actually have to use a thunder ring to hit that number lmao. Someone in a pick up party called me a noob about it as well, then the ffxi gods let me do a near 2500+ RR <.<
    DRG Mamools (I think BLU mamools too) don't cap at 117 like they do on birds. Other than that, this is fine (Though do you mean BST instead of WAR mamools? Can't say I've seen or remember any WAR mamools).

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    I would say that Trolls probably have low AGI for the most part too (DRK WAR PLD RDM) but again with some like MNK, PUP, RNG being harder to cap dDEX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SephYuyX View Post
    PLD:
    Explain to me why Lamian Kaman is used over Rosenbogen or even Bibiki Seashell.

    Ok, im a newly 75 PLD who raced from 37 in two weeks, so my gear is all AH and AF atm. And yes, shit is situational, I know, different mobs, different pieces.

    But explain to me why PLDs I see are wearing Lamain when they have no other MDB gear on, and why they shouldnt be using one of the other two? As far as im concerned Rosen is the better out of the three.

    MDB+1 is only -1%, so for a 100dmg spell, it's only going to reduce it down to 99dmg. Now when youre fighting a very magic heavy mob, and have lots of MDB equip on, great, that 1% would be we welcome in most cases I think then. Im not going to factor in the MP because im a mithra w/ full mp merits, and really, how often are PLD at full mp to make that 10mp even worth while?

    Now with Shell, it's just VIT+4, but even that seems better than MDB+1. With the 2VIT=1DEF thing, thats 2 extra DEF, which is soso, but better than nothing. Im likely to believe that 4VIT will reduce more dmg over time than 1MDB.

    Rosen I feel is the best as it has VIT and HP, while the HP isnt the best being only 10, I guess it's nice for when you swap in +HP gear to self cure, and again the VIT is a nice touch.

    So explain to me, what a PLD, that just hit 75, with meh gear, doesnt have any situational stuff yet, should use as a 'full time' piece when fighting mostly melee mobs.

    Forgive any lol-ness, full time mage to 'hey, pld sounds cool' so my knowledge in that department is still quite huuuur atm. Id a 3 week vacation, and wanted to knock out the leveling part of it during that time, and worry about perfecting it after. So yeah, please correct my idiocywhere it arises.
    From my understanding, you shouldn't be worried about VIT mod at all for PLD, since you'll be tanking most, if not all, HNMs as /NIN, where VIT really isn't at all that important. Also, I agree. The kaman by itself is pretty shitty, but stacked with other pieces of equipment, it'd be best all round.

    Seashell, I don't even know. I only use seashell on PLD because its still 64, and the only uses I really have for it is when I'm tanking Charybdis or Lord of Onzozo on THF for intimidation purposes.

    I'm not a complete expert on PLD, so don't completely take my word for it.

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    Just something I was wondering, is the Kubira Bead Necklace better for RR than the sea gorget?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Despain View Post
    From my understanding, you shouldn't be worried about VIT mod at all for PLD, since you'll be tanking most, if not all, HNMs as /NIN, where VIT really isn't at all that important. Also, I agree. The kaman by itself is pretty shitty, but stacked with other pieces of equipment, it'd be best all round.
    Pretty much this. In fights where you do need MDB, you wont be using the gear set 100% throughout the fight so you pretty much full time Lamian Kaman +1 so you don't loose tp when you switch to your MDB set.

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    Arco De Velocidad GO~!

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    @Sephyuyx:

    It's really just a matter of having to pick from a rather poor selection of ranged/ammo items. MDB +1/2 is going to come in handy more often than VIT+4 will. Pld can, rather easily, make a capped MDT set with some extra MDB to swap into when they're going to take magic damage. Fulltiming Kaman/+1 just means not losing TP when you swap to that set. Since so many PLDs these days spam Atonement (And even those without it have Tp for Spirits and Chivalry), this is a nice advantage.

    To be quite honest, Kaman really is doing absolutely nothing for you on small stuff And/Or, anything that doesn't cast magic. But, it's become such a staple of the PLD job that you'd probably end up in Media wearing anything else. If you don't care about the stigma, Fenrir's Stone and Tiphia Sting are good defensive/offensive Ranged/Ammo pieces should you be fighting something that won't deal magic damage to you.

    Edit: Like above, Arco de Velocidad during daytime is pretty sweet too.

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    Most excellent responce, thanks.

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    PLD TP rings

    Ultha/rajas/Blood are the rings I have to TP in. Which would be the best combination?

    Also for earrings I have Brutal/Suppa/Ethereal. I currently use Brutal/Ethereal should I use Suppa over either?

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    Goblin Cracker, Smart Grenade, Lightning Bow +1, Arco, Tiphia, Bow augmented with melee stats, all good options.

    I'd use Brutal/Suppa, swap in Ethereal if you're going to be taking damage, or if bloodtanking go Suppa/Ethereal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrupzion View Post
    PLD TP rings

    Ultha/rajas/Blood are the rings I have to TP in. Which would be the best combination?

    Also for earrings I have Brutal/Suppa/Ethereal. I currently use Brutal/Ethereal should I use Suppa over either?
    I'd say ultha/rajas. 1 more acc from blood isn't going to beat out either of these rings. I could be wrong.

    EDIT: 1 more acc in terms of blood vs. ultha. I don't think blood even comes close to competing with rajas.

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