What's Better?

[Gosyac]

*edit: ^ what he said ^
I didn't realize I still had 6-hit without the Chiv. Chain. Thankyou for mentioning. I do have and will use the appropiate gorgets to use for WS then.
Also nice to hear positive feedback. This is my first true DD job and I'd like to do it right lol.

[Cream Soda]

The only reason he would want to use hachiman hands and feet for TP is more accuracy, but he will lose 6% haste.

Only lose 3% haste (don't need both for 6hit just one)

[Argettio]

*edit: ^ what he said ^
I didn't realize I still had 6-hit without the Chiv. Chain. Thankyou for mentioning. I do have and will use the appropiate gorgets to use for WS then.
Also nice to hear positive feedback. This is my first true DD job and I'd like to do it right lol.

If I have added it up right you have:

46 sTP during TP
25 trait
10 merits
4 rose
5 askar
1 brutal
1 ecp ring

45 sTP during WS
25 trait
10 merits
4 rose
1 Brutal
5 hachi

(11.5*1.46)*5 = 83.5 (truncated at each step)
11.5*1.45 = 16.6
83.5 + 16.6 = 100.1

Only lose 3% haste (don't need both for 6hit just one)

True, my mistake. But he can easily carry a hauby and full time hachi feet (as he has that with him already) and use that for high eva mobs.

[ringthree]

Which is better (assuming /SAM):

5-hit E-Bow build with:
Mekki Shakki
Rose Grip
Rajas Ring
Skadi's Chausses

Or 6-hit build with:
Vulcan's Staff
Axe Grip
Some other better Ring (Suggestions?)
Scout's Bracade/P. Legs/Skadi's Legs (Suggestions here too)

Things to consider: Pulling hate. HNM fights vs. XP. Overall Damage.

Thanks for the input.

[Kyte]

What's your current STR/DEX/ATT then?

%#%^$%ing FFXIGear needs to get fixed.....anywho:

Unbuffed and without spells set, my WS set is:

STR- 62+41
DEX- 63+27
Attack- 396

With a typical /NIN spell set (which of course includes Attack Bonus) that I might use on something such as Gcolibri:

STR- 63+53
DEX- 63+36
Attack- 412

EDIT: Just to clarify, my current WS set uses Enkidu's Mittens.

[Xeres Celestia Highwind]

Tping for WAR Which of these is best?
ACP body with: ACC+10 Double Attack+2%
ACP body with: ATK+10 Double Attack+2%
ACP body with: ACC+10 ATK+10
Hauberk

[Cream Soda]

I'd say haub

[Wolfknight]

Tping for WAR Which of these is best?
ACP body with: ACC+10 Double Attack+2%
ACP body with: ATK+10 Double Attack+2%
ACP body with: ACC+10 ATK+10
Hauberk

I'd say haub

this, better off doing another job, or maybe acc[or att]/crit% for RR or something really.

[Yugl]

%#%^$%ing FFXIGear needs to get fixed.....anywho:

Unbuffed and without spells set, my WS set is:

STR- 62+41
DEX- 63+27
Attack- 396

With a typical /NIN spell set (which of course includes Attack Bonus) that I might use on something such as Gcolibri:

STR- 63+53
DEX- 63+36
Attack- 412

EDIT: Just to clarify, my current WS set uses Enkidu's Mittens.

Go with Enkidu in that case. The DEX boost (Aka Crit boost) will outweigh the STR in this case.

[Kyte]

Okay good; that means I won't have to adjust it ever either (if my accuracy during WS becomes uncapped for....whatever reason). I wonder if a dDEX build would be possible/viable on BLU?

I should probably un-lazy and put Alkys into my Savage Blade and Expiacion macros though.

[Andradi]

Tping for WAR Which of these is best?
ACP body with: ACC+10 Double Attack+2%
ACP body with: ATK+10 Double Attack+2%
ACP body with: ACC+10 ATK+10
Hauberk

ACC + STP for 6-hitting an Engetsuo or some other low delay weapon worth using? (I don't know what WAR typically uses outside Perdu.)

[Scary]

Better Damage output between SAM/war vs. DRG/sam on Bird camp. Assuming sam is using polearm of course and that both jobs are pimped out ie, ace's, hauby+1, usu boots for sam, and drg with ace's, aurum body, full homam, etc........... Usually best possible gears without relic weapon. Met a sam who claimed that his sam/war has never been outparsed by any drgs on bird camp. I find that hard to believe, although I haven't had an opportunity to go head to head with him until I get my drg up to 75. There's gotta be a drg out there who's pimped enough to make that claim that no sam/war will ever outparsed him on bird camp. Any drgs confident enough to make that claim, or is it really not possible? Please let me believe..........

Here's my future drg gear: I would be devastated if a sam/war beats me on parser at bird camp:

Thalassocrat/Pole grip or D: 94 based weapon
Ace's
Love Torque
Aurum Body
Pixie/Brutal
Homam hands/legs/feet
Rajas/Ulthalam/Thunder
Cuchulain's
V. Belt

WS:

Heca set
Aurum Body

I'm pretty confident this combination can beat out many pimped out sam/wars. Thoughts?

[Wolfknight]

Better Damage output between SAM/war vs. DRG/sam on Bird camp. Assuming sam is using polearm of course and that both jobs are pimped out ie, ace's, hauby+1, usu boots for sam, and drg with ace's, aurum body, full homam, etc........... Usually best possible gears without relic weapon. Met a sam who claimed that his sam/war has never been outparsed by any drgs on bird camp. I find that hard to believe, although I haven't had an opportunity to go head to head with him until I get my drg up to 75. There's gotta be a drg out there who's pimped enough to make that claim that no sam/war will ever outparsed him on bird camp. Any drgs confident enough to make that claim, or is it really not possible? Please let me believe..........

Here's my future drg gear: I would be devastated if a sam/war beats me on parser at bird camp:

Thalassocrat/Pole grip or D: 94 based weapon
Ace's
Love Torque
Aurum Body
Pixie/Brutal
Homam hands/legs/feet
Rajas/Ulthalam/Thunder
Cuchulain's
V. Belt

WS:

Heca set
Aurum Body

I'm pretty confident this combination can beat out many pimped out sam/wars. Thoughts?

I saw parse of cream/vegetto beating a drg with pretty good gear but they had quite a few gear errors, that lowered drg some, and vegetto has near flawless sam polearm build -augments and levi course, and he fulltimed hasso, the drg didn't. Personally with only really good sam/war I've had chance to parse againist was death even before wyvern, so I had won by 2~3%.

[Cream Soda]

I saw parse of cream/vegetto beating a drg with pretty good gear but they had quite a few gear errors, that lowered drg some, and vegetto has near flawless sam polearm build -augments and levi course, and he fulltimed hasso, the drg didn't. Personally with only really good sam/war I've had chance to parse againist was death even before wyvern, so I had won by 2~3%.

When you say the drg didn't you should also mention that they used it so little that even they themself came on and said it wouldn't have made a diff because their seigan was on so little of the time. The way you say it sounds like veg fulltime hasso and the drg used hasso sometimes but seigan some too.


Lol as for errors everyone had them whether it was me hitting wivres for 0 as they granite skinned right before i decided to drop a penta or the drg or the other sam wasting tp by overkilling like a mofo, ect. We all had our fair share, not like I had the perfect situation and the drg had the shittiest.

[Valisk]

lol, why do you feel the need to defend yourself? We aren't going to think you are a shitty SAM just because you beat a mediocre DRG.

[Cream Soda]

lol mediocre? Liger is far from mediocre.

Would probably be best if you actually knew what you were talking about before you went and started typing.

[Valisk]

lol mediocre? Liger is far from mediocre.

Would probably be best if you actually knew what you were talking about before you went and started typing.

Not fulltiming hasso while you did seems pretty mediocre to me. Either he is or your mages are.

[Cream Soda]

Again it was off low enough time not to have made a difference in the parse. We're not talking about ok let me use seigan for 5 mins at a time.

You weren't at the thread in question, you know nothing of how things went down. Liger could parse circles around your ass, lol. If liger is mediocre you must be novice?

[Yugl]

1. Math it out
2. Get the two best geared DRG and SAM (Put them on the same server some how) and start the parse with *both* knowing that they're parsing for damage. I don't care about the CS/Valisk debate, but it's unbelievable how many people parse against others unknowing of the parse, then claim they did better than them. If you tell me you're parsing, of course I'm going to play differently. I might Seigan/Manage tanking less in order to do more DMG. Don't have one side aware of the parse without the other side aware as well.

Edit: Omg stop defiling Saito.

[Cream Soda]

Whether you know you're being parsed or not, should always play as if you were being parsed (though everyone in this pt knew parse was being run). Shouldn't have to have someone tell you they're monitoring your damage for you to decide to play your best. Should be putting out your A game every time.