+6 INT Augmented Weskit Causes Sky To Fall, News at Eleven

[D44kpunk]

Answer This with something reasonable and I'll maybe find something to respect in your argument:

What is wrong with SE allowing casual players to have the ability to get something worthwhile and enjoy the game they PAY TO PLAY?

They pay the same 12 bucks a month as you, and play less, so you get more for your money, they just get to get something as well... wow what a fucking concept.

While we're on the topic you definitely need that +6 weskit to enjoy the game amirite? Everyone shut up and have fun.

Also you're stupid if you also think that people who put in marginally different amounts of effort should get the same reward as everyone has posted multiple times, let me know when you come up with an argument to that besides that we both pay the same amount. Until then I can't respect your argument sorry.

edit: Yea you're right I shouldn't care that other people do 1/10th the work for the same reward it's pretty fair. Think before you post please.

[Correction]

you're a complete idiot for thinking that someone that does 1/10th the work should get the same reward? Yup.

The guy who goes 1/1 on D.Ring camping KB worked 1/10th as hard as the guy who goes 1/10 on the same item. Same is true of currency farming for relics, 35 drops from Salvage, etc. etc. etc. You only have to 'work' in FFXI as hard as the RNG makes you work. Sometimes people get lucky. That's all the new FoV stuff is. It's still an enormous investment of time and money, as Max pointed out.

But keep on being blind to that, it's funny to watch you hop up and down all mad n' shit.

[D44kpunk]

The guy who goes 1/1 on D.Ring camping KB worked 1/10th as hard as the guy who goes 1/10 on the same item. Same is true of currency farming for relics, 35 drops from Salvage, etc. etc. etc. You only have to 'work' in FFXI as hard as the RNG makes you work. Sometimes people get lucky. That's all the new FoV stuff is. It's still an enormous investment of time and money, as Max pointed out.

But keep on being blind to that, it's funny to watch you hop up and down all mad n' shit.

Are you this stupid? As I've said for the 4th time now, wouldn't be complaining if it was a new item and a new NM in a new area that wasn't soloable. But instead its an old NM and an old item in an old area that is soloable. hurr.

[BRP]

It's kinda akin to QQing about the blueberry PLD that gets Dring, when your PLD is wearing max HQ gear and relics. Just because the randomness of said drop rate is still random doesn't make it suck any less that someone who is probably less deserving got it before you.

They both equally "deserve" the ring lol. Whether one deserves it or not only comes to play when a LS leader has to decide between the two(putting them in a competition.) The game alone doesn't make those kind of choices. It can't make a wrong choice.

[BRP]

Are you this stupid? As I've said for the 4th time now, wouldn't be complaining if it was a new item and a new NM in a new area that wasn't soloable. But instead its an old NM and an old item in an old area that is soloable. hurr.

Explain to me, as you flail around like an animal, why do you continue to bring up arguments that suggest you care about more than that?

[Correction]

Are you this stupid? As I've said for the 4th time now, wouldn't be complaining if it was a new item and a new NM in a new area that wasn't soloable. But instead its an old NM and an old item in an old area that is soloable. hurr.

Bullshit, you're complaining because you hate them dirty commies working less for the same reward as you. If this were about 'old gear' and 'old content' then...

How old are the soloable Quiqirns in Salvage, again?
How old are the soloable wings of Limbus, again?
How old is endgame gear purchasable from the AH, again?

DAMN YOU DIRTY COMMIES!

[Patriclis]

when augments first came out people bitched on a thread here about how they wasted snipers rings and shit with gimp-ass augments.

Now they give us good augments and people bitch that they're too good.

so all i have to say is: QUIT YER BITCHIN'

[Drex]

Are you this stupid? As I've said for the 4th time now, wouldn't be complaining if it was a new item and a new NM in a new area that wasn't soloable. But instead its an old NM and an old item in an old area that is soloable. hurr.

But it is. It's a new NM that spawns once per day maximum and requires 5 hours of grinding easy mobs to spawn it. It has a very low drop rate on the item you want, and its other drops can't even be sold on the auction house. It's an even bigger time sink than kings.

The item has the same name as old items but is essentially new. After all, a Dragon Harness with +8 accuracy is a heck of a lot different from a Dragon Harness without it, right? So it's a new item on a new NM that requires 5 hours of tedious shit to pop, and it has a terrible drop rate because there are so many other useless augments you can get.

Someone got lucky in FFXI. It's been happening since endgame began. Get over it, it's not new and it's not "killing the game" anymore than any other event has.

[JigglyJam]

Jesus Christ this thread exploded.

I'll say this: Awesome. I'd love to see more augments and to really diversify more gear.

[Esvedium]

Yea you're right I shouldn't care that other people do 1/10th the work for the same reward it's pretty fair.

I know you were trying to be sarcastic, but this is exactly what people are trying to say. How does this other person having a weskit with6 int affect you at all?

Oh, that's right, it doesn't.

[Aksannyi]

They both equally "deserve" the ring lol. Whether one deserves it or not only comes to play when a LS leader has to decide between the two(putting them in a competition.) The game alone doesn't make those kind of choices. It can't make a wrong choice.

And that's part of the fail of the random system, IMO. Not that it's going to change, but I've played this game for five years and I do feel the right to bitch about something like that, which I (and several others) perceive to be really unfair.

[Gtype954]

I've never seen someone get so upset about someone getting a nice piece of gear.

Your gear is not garbage now. If you think an FoV makes all your effort and time completely wasted then I feel really sorry that you equate your happiness in game with the amount of INT your character has.

Please cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.

Go farm up 14,000,000 (14 million) gil and do salvage for 50 runs and get your 35 peice and 25 peice from boss.
Then in a matter of 5 mins, someone gets a 5k NQ weskit which is barely worse seconds later.

14,000,000 gil >>>>> 5000 gil. Its not the 35 peice, trust me. Its the fact they someone just wasted 14mil on a non-refundable body peice expecting it to out damage or outdo any other NQ peice by a huge margin not by 0.01% better.

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The mythics were shitty on the other hand, but the effort to obtain it, they should of had all 3 aftermaths and been broken like people thought orginally. People use to cry about how broken(good) the stats looked on those too. Considering the effort for those though... I would say the opposite of what i'm typing up above before the dotted line.

Something that costs 14mil should never be obsoleted or have ANYTHING that even comes within 10% range of it. Maybe if SE didn't nerf the ore droprate or if they made them easier to mine or dramatically increased the drop rate to 40% in ISNM, people would not complain. We have to farm gil for any little item we want now instead of letting us farm the actual item used to craft it.

[Jeryhn]

Are people still honestly coming to terms with the 'possibly random number generator' in FFXI? Did people actually think until today that shit was fair?

Fucking hilarious.

Perhaps it is "fair" now?

This thread is hilarious. Salvage isn't hard (especially with what we know about it now), and neither is FoV, but the cockblock to getting good gear from either is still the horrible random number generator.

And for some reason, people are angry?

Protip: That weskit nullifies Morrigan's Robe? Last I checked, only BLM could wear a weskit. These days, you guys are better off casting Cure or Sleepga than anything else anyway, since BLMs haven't been good for anything but dumping your MP since the introduction of ToAU. Would rather you have the Refresh, tbh.

[jensenkujata]

+18 fire on my genie weskit, fire resist build almost complete on blm now!!

[BRP]

And that's part of the fail of the random system, IMO. Not that it's going to change, but I've played this game for five years and I do feel the right to bitch about something like that, which I (and several others) perceive to be really unfair.

But it is not unfair. You are contradicting yourself.


EDIT: Gtype954, why should time convert directly into power?

EDIT: Yeah typo. Replying too fast.

[Correction]

Go farm up 14,000,000 (14 million) gil and do salvage for 50 runs and get your 35 peice and 25 peice from boss.
Then in a matter of 5 mins, someone gets a 5k NQ weskit which is barely worse seconds later.

Go farm up to 14 mil and do salvage for 3 runs and get everything you need.

Playing with percentages is fun!

OH GOD STOP DEVALUING MY GEAR YOU LUCKY COMMUNIST.

Its the fact they someone just wasted 14mil on a non-refundable body peice expecting it to out damage or outdo any other NQ peice by a huge margin not by 0.01% better.

This has never been an expectation set by the FFXI development/encounter teams. Do you fulltime your Morrigan's? Really?

[D44kpunk]

It'd be interesting to see how many of the people for the FoV updates have ever done HNM

also it's best just to ignore BRP he's either clinically retarded or trolling

[Max™]

CONTRACTINGLOL

Also: augmented gear on NM's that didn't exist a day ago is new gear on new mobs, if you want to argue semantics, let's get right into the nitty gritty of it.

I've done pretty much everything BUT Salvage (and I avoid Salvage because the time dump pre-drop rate adjustment + gil dump was not appealing), and am against the FoV shit personally because I don't got the gil to throw at those boxes.

I still think it is a great option which ANYONE can benefit from if they choose.

[Esvedium]

Go farm up 14,000,000 (14 million) gil and do salvage for 50 runs and get your 35 peice and 25 peice from boss.
Then in a matter of 5 mins, someone gets a 5k NQ weskit which is barely worse seconds later.

Yeah, because EVERY weskit is gonna come back with 6int on it... no really.

More likely for most people would be:
farm up 30k (phoenix price on weskits last I saw) and pop a miniboss and kill it and get back a ruined weskit ~100 times over, and you're out 3,000,000.

[Bishop1]

It would be nice if you could augment salvage/hnm gear.