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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    Taking into consideration how much time it takes to get a JoL pop I'd say you've probably never done the fight before, it's ok, wiki it.
    And you also could have easily skipped all that because a ton of it can be lowmanned

    buhhhh farming aerns for 8 hours takes a lot of skill

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    This topic really is amazing, I've never seen such mindless bandwagoning in my whole life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotColenzo View Post
    what a shitty fucking thread
    quoting myself until i go on a vacation

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    For that matter, how many INT+6 Weskits have you got out of this update D44k?
    9, and considering that it would have been impossible to get a morrigan's robe by now if it had just been released yesterday I'd say that morrigans robe is definitely easier to get. Wait, what, nvm

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    Quote Originally Posted by drwaffles View Post
    This topic really is amazing, I've never seen such mindless bandwagoning in my whole life.
    Mindless? How so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    Mindless? How so?
    lol the seed of doubt has been planted

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    So... anyone else gotten any good augments besides the Hagun and Weskit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drwaffles View Post
    This topic really is amazing, I've never seen such mindless bandwagoning in my whole life.
    It applies equally to both sides.

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    Either that or waffles is just saying the first thing that comes to his mind. Ganging up on d44k is anything but mindless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crab_Cake View Post
    So... anyone else gotten any good augments besides the Hagun and Weskit?
    Genie Tiara +23fire!!

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    Salvage = easy, usually takes a long time to get something good. Sometims people get lucky (outliers).

    FoV = easy, usually takes a long time to get something good. Sometimes people get lucky (outliers).

    Salvage = need 1-2 assault runs to afford permit. Assault runs = ~20 mins unless doing RVB, then it's like 5 mins. About 30-40 mins for assault, and 100 mins for the run. 2 hours a day to do salvage. Can do salvage once per day (back-to-back runs possible if you skip the day before, or go right before JP midnight)

    FoV = need 4-5 regimes to get enough points. 1 regime per gameday = 4-5 hours per NM fight. Can fight the NM once per day (back-to-back runs possible if you go right before JP midnight and did another 4-5 hours of grinding beforehand)

    Neither event is hard. The "FOV IS EASY" argument is silly because Salvage is easy too. A lot of people do all NMs physically possible + boss, every day, without any major issue, so it's obviously not a difficult event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    Either that or waffles is just saying the first thing that comes to his mind. Ganging up on d44k is anything but mindless.
    It's mindless in the sense that it's really easy

    almost as easy as getting good FoV augments and killing FFXI as we know it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    It applies equally to both sides.
    The premise of 70% of the thread is 100 people vs 1 person. Not really equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    It applies equally to both sides.
    Not really, it'll be interesting to see the augments on haubys if they get haste or STP sux 4 u ebody. Can't think of any other update that made it so painfully easy to make every other piece of gear save a few (d ring, haute) so obsolete.

    Also I'm sorry but you can't compare killing DC mobs and a soloable in 5mins reskinned aspi to LAC or any other salvage boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    It applies equally to both sides.
    Hardly, bandwagoning zombies will usually choose the side that's going to meet with less resistance, not the side that's going to get bombarded with "u mad", "casual players r ppl 2" and "ur dum". Sad thing is this whole debate centers on something mostly hypothetical - if it does indeed turn out that getting something from FoV that equals or surpasses existing high-end gear is about as likely as hitting the Bonanza jackpot then no one will have anything to complain about, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinta View Post
    The premise of 70% of the thread is 100 vs 1 person. Not really equal.
    It was more equal in the beginning being Day & Tempyst vs Fridell & Daakpunk and then more people came, and sided with whomever they chose.

    It's not like either are making airtight solid arguments for their cause? At the end of the day who the fuck cares, do what you want cause a pirate is free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    Either that or waffles is just saying the first thing that comes to his mind. Ganging up on d44k is anything but mindless.
    Usually I would agree, but in this instance he's one of the only people actually making sense.

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    Sooooooooo what if it's easy. jfc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    It was more equal in the beginning being Day & Tempyst vs Fridell & Daakpunk and then more people came, and sided with whomever they chose.

    It's not like either are making airtight solid arguments for their cause? At the end of the day who the fuck cares, do what you want cause a pirate is free.
    I agree, just sayin'

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    I'm really glad FoV can occasionally toss out good augments.

    Right now we have way too many Haubergeons, Scorpion Harnesses, and Dusk Gloves in the market.

    They're crapping out anywhere.

    On my server, Haubergeons are 140-150k.

    It takes 5-6 haubergeons to match the price of 100 currency(Sandy currency).

    So now 5 haubergeons = 100 currency(sandoria).

    In the old days during inflation, a Haubergeon was worth 200 currency(Sandy currency).

    I had used up all my points to lot on 100 currencies, sold them for 4-5 mil a pop, and gladly bought my Haubergeon for 10 million gil.

    Now Haubergeon is worth only 140-150k, everyone wears it. It's a lolHaubergeon item now.

    I want my 200 sandy currencies back!

    Or I want the FoV system to raise the prices of Haubergeons and stuff so not everyone and their chocobo is wearing one.

    tl;dr stuff like this always happens. It's MMO, things get easier, things determined by luck, people get screwed, people get lucky, etc.

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