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  1. #441
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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    Not really, it'll be interesting to see the augments on haubys if they get haste or STP sux 4 u ebody. Can't think of any other update that made it so painfully easy to make every other piece of gear save a few (d ring, haute) so obsolete.

    Also I'm sorry but you can't compare killing DC mobs and a soloable in 5mins reskinned aspi to LAC or any other salvage boss.
    I thought you didn't care.

  2. #442
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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    wah wah wah pointless argument that i'm going to keep making worse
    Can we get a temp ban for Day so this thread can go back to being pictures and not a bitchfest?

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    Man this just seems like a boring rehash of every butthurt I've heard over the last five years. Sushi (I worked hard for my acc rings, now everyone and their brother will be a decent melee!), exp requirement reduction (I worked hard to get my job to 75, now everyone will hit 75 in a week!), and even salvage (I worked hard for my dalmatica/briault, now everyone will have a refresh body without having to do kings like I did!)

    yet the game still continues and the world keeps turnin'

  4. #444
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beave View Post
    Can we get a temp ban for Day so this thread can go back to being pictures and not a bitchfest?
    This IS the bitchfest, original thread is in media dawg

  5. #445
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beave View Post
    Can we get a temp ban for Day so this thread can go back to being pictures and not a bitchfest?
    This thread was never about pictures bro. This thread was moved away from the correct thread. There is also one in Advanced if that is not enough.

  6. #446
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beave View Post
    Can we get a temp ban for Day so this thread can go back to being pictures and not a bitchfest?
    Just how slow are you? This thread was split for discussion.

    I'm asking why it matters if it's easy. Fuck off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    Just how slow are you? This thread was split for discussion.

    I'm asking why it matters if it's easy. Fuck off.

    So let's discuss something else than what has been going on for 13+ pages. Pick a different augment, and argue about it.

  8. #448
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    JESUS CHRIST SOMEONE'S POSTING THEIR OPINIONS TEMP BAN NOW

  9. #449
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirokei Kiaza View Post
    The people throwing a temper tantrum over this +6INT Weskit need to differentiate to themselves whether this is a game or a job.
    ^


    seriously, it's a 6INT weskit, get over it, it's very rare, it takes alot of luck, 3-4hrs of FoV and a 20-30k item.

    someone in my event ls went 1/1 on kraken club BC, thats 40mil, wheres the 11pages about that?

    edit: oh god it's 16pages now Q_Q

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knyghtmayre View Post
    JESUS CHRIST SOMEONE'S POSTING THEIR OPINIONS TEMP BAN NOW
    Trolling isn't posting your opinion. Find me a post where day posted something he thought about on the matter and not something that was totally baiting/flaming someone and i'll be shocked and amazed

  11. #451
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    Hell hath no fury like a haijin scorned.

    The chance of creating a waste of space is far greater than creating something great with this system, I don't see the problem. The amount of money people will pour into this only to get a weskit with -5 MAB or something will be hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier View Post
    Hell hath no fury like a haijin scorned.
    If my entire identity was wrapped up in how much of a number I can make pop up when I press a button on a keyboard, I'd be really, really mad right now too.

  13. #453
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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    Trolling isn't posting your opinion. Find me a post where day posted something he thought about on the matter and not something that was totally baiting/flaming someone and i'll be shocked and amazed
    So disagreeing with your dumbass bawwwwwwfest is trolling now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    Trolling isn't posting your opinion. Find me a post where day posted something he thought about on the matter and not something that was totally baiting/flaming someone and i'll be shocked and amazed
    Well you were able to generate a far greater shitfest and with more people. You must be a troll. I know this, because I know everything.

  15. #455
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tempyst View Post
    Man this just seems like a boring rehash of every butthurt I've heard over the last five years. Sushi (I worked hard for my acc rings, now everyone and their brother will be a decent melee!), exp requirement reduction (I worked hard to get my job to 75, now everyone will hit 75 in a week!), and even salvage (I worked hard for my dalmatica/briault, now everyone will have a refresh body without having to do kings like I did!)

    yet the game still continues and the world keeps turnin'
    As multiple people have stated, anyone who got pissed off at stuff like that (barring, perhaps, buying a TK the day before the Sozu patch or something) was pretty stupid. This whole thing wouldn't have exploded nearly as much if more people's arguments were centered around the fact that this is unlikely to be half as disastrous as Fridell and whoever else made out, with less of the "casual players should be able to get the same stuff as hardcore players with hardly any effort" bullshit being thrown around.

    Most of the arguing going on here is about ideals rather than the actual reality of the augment system.

  16. #456
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin View Post
    I swear to god, I don't see the auto-refresh on this augmented weskit.
    I'm late now but this is what I thought the instant I saw the OP.

    I don't see where it says I get 5 more MAB for having the rest of the igqira set either.

    GG, it's nice and it pwns morgana's, NQ/HQ weskit/royal with MAG/MAC augs, but being a burly purple ball with auto-refresh > like 19 more dmg on nukes if say a +10INT weskit was found.

    So the like 10 pages of QQing is really epic and all, but fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drwaffles View Post
    What is it with this forum and immediately labeling anyone that says anything remotely negative about the game as a whiny bitch lately? When did BG become Alla?
    Since you started bitching about something that's not a big deal. Remotely negative? This isn't a "Hey guys I disapprove of this feature", it's a bunch of people whining about FoV suddenly becoming the new shit. Quite frankly I don't think it's worth spending tons of gil when Salvage items are already comparable to FoV augmented items. These people are *extremely* lucky to receive the bonuses they have.

    The worst part is that people are complaining about a system that could potentially solve a lot of complaints in FFXI. The first and most obvious fix is that the augment feature has a use. The second fix (Potential) is that crafting may once again become profitable. The third is that the system has the potential to grant worthwhile bonuses.

    Another aspect that many forget is the fact that this system runs much like Salvage in the sense that it's heavily gil and luck based. Unlike Salvage however, the gil isn't within a set range. Just as how you can go (1/100) on a Salvage piece you need to complete the set, you can go (1/100) on these augment pieces. The difference however, depending on the item, may mean the augment piece will run you 290mil (This figure using Genie Weskit). These individually are extremely lucky to run into acceptable stats on their armor. For anyone who believes otherwise, I refer you to the other augment thread in which Warwolf belts turn up with 14 Earth Bonuses.

    In short, many of the people are overreacting. Some of them, (Neo I'm looking at you!) are even contradicting earlier sentiments towards this feature. I myself saw this coming the moment they announced the system and was somewhat more satisfied seeing the Warwolf Belt pictures. It's not comfortable knowing that your items can potentially become better at the risk of Gil/A decent item. Having said that, it's not worth complaining about since the fraction of the people receiving great stats on their augmented items is heavily outweighed by the vast majority of lolElementalorStatuseffectresistance augments.

  18. #458
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    not taking sides here, but what's the diff between getting a good aug item this way and being able to get 5 enmity 5 fast cast in less than a day's worth of work? (which everyone was so OMG about it rather than bitching at it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Since you started bitching about something that's not a big deal. Remotely negative? This isn't a "Hey guys I disapprove of this feature", it's a bunch of people whining about FoV suddenly becoming the new shit. Quite frankly I don't think it's worth spending tons of gil when Salvage items are already comparable to FoV augmented items. These people are *extremely* lucky to receive the bonuses they have.

    The worst part is that people are complaining about a system that could potentially solve a lot of complaints in FFXI. The first and most obvious fix is that the augment feature has a use. The second fix (Potential) is that crafting may once again become profitable. The third is that the system has the potential to grant worthwhile bonuses.
    Completely agreed with this. FoV is a solution to so many problems and in a way it's exactly what players have been asking for. I can't think of many other fixes besides this that could have revived crafting the way it has (or will). Also.. finally, there is a way of putting in work for potentially some of the best endgame gear, solo or in a group, whenever you want.

    The ability to solo your own tabs and some of the lower level elite FoVs is a big one for me. Wah wah inb4 why you playing MMO if you want to solo. Let's just say that's how some people enjoy it and that there's a reason BST is so popular with some people

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    I guess what I don't get (as many other people may have pointed out, I skipped most of this thread) is that people cry when FoV augments are worthless and sucky, and then they cry when they're actually useful....

    So which do you want? lol

    Personally a morrigan's robe has always been incredibly out of reach for me, both gil and salvage group wise, so I'm pretty happy to hear that I can try for an augment like this.

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