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  1. #161
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    Gonna go out on a limb here based on what I've seen with other augmented things and say the game won't severely stack +stats that match what is on the item already. That being said, don't go expecting +5 INT on your HQ Ice Staff (but perhaps on your Thunder staff), don't expect to get +Attack/Acc on your Haub+1, wouldn't expect to see more than +1/2 STR/DEX on Haubs either. Byrnies with +DEX and Acc would be fairly likely to happen though.

    Of course I could be wrong, this is just an assumption based on what I've seen.

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    Lemme know when someone pops a Hauby with Haste.

    Also: what's with the Bonanza Haute comparisons, you mean Joyeuse right? The fuck people still camp Khim for anyways?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridell View Post
    lol
    SE wants us to drop HNM / Einharjer and Salvage, we can just do FoV and get augmented Weskits and Haubs.
    So cool, SE just shows more and more how much they fail.
    Fucking lol.

    You guys get so butthurt over the dumbest shit. I don't know why, but I am always surprised.



    I can't understand how you people could stand to play any game but MMOs.

    EDIT: Well MMOs are not games to you are they? More like jobs. Where you get paid in fool's gold and get jealous of other people's pays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    Lemme know when someone pops a Hauby with Haste.

    Also: what's with the Bonanza Haute comparisons, you mean Joyeuse right? The fuck people still camp Khim for anyways?
    Because if Neosutra can't lord over everyone else from his Tower of Reason and FFXI Items he ceases to be. Hauteclaire is one of the tools he uses to subjugate the lesser beings and those who have a Fauxclaire devalue his Superiority.

    In any case, FFXI has always made non-endgame items stack up well against endgame items. Many of the best items in the game (Maat's Cap, Wally Turban, Mission Rewards) are gotten without touching Ein, Salvage, HNMs, whatever. Some of the older endgame events like Dynamis and Limbus are easily done without any talent or gear by now thanks to the power creep (it's absurdly slow in FFXI, but it exists). So who really cares if having a Hauteclaire means you got lucky at Mog Bonanza instead of getting lucky off of a Khim drop? You don't fucking need it, it doesn't matter.

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    So wait.

    An activity that is relatively easy to do, can be done with a minimal amount of people, and can produce decent rewards is stupid, unfair, and yet another example of the ineptitude of Square-Enix.

    Right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirkle View Post
    So wait.

    An activity that is relatively easy to do, can be done with a minimal amount of people, and can produce decent rewards is stupid, unfair, and yet another example of the ineptitude of Square-Enix.

    Right.
    EXCUSE ME

    I don't work a job 12 hours a day so someone who plays a game for 2 hours can get paid the same thing.

    Would you like to see my resume?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirkle View Post
    So wait.

    An activity that is relatively easy to do, can be done with a minimal amount of people, and can produce decent rewards is stupid, unfair, and yet another example of the ineptitude of Square-Enix.

    Right.
    Even worse than when it only made items crappier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    Also: what's with the Bonanza Haute comparisons, you mean Joyeuse right? The fuck people still camp Khim for anyways?
    Very interested in HNMLSs logic behind this. Sword is shit drop rate, and really only useful in situations where you can't engage the enemy... Camping for Seveneyes then?

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    Neo has a Haute?

    Only thing I ever drooled over on his gay ass hume toon was his odin hat.

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    GOD SE is so stupid, fucking fail

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    I had this exact reaction after SE introduced Antares Harness. Me and everyone else who spent months in salvage and paid 10 mil+ for our Skadi Body's now were looking at a piece of gear with almost exact stats. I think they introduced Salvage to punish people.

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    Why do you keep spelling it wrong?

    Slavage, as in slave to the grind, get it right, gawd!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirkle View Post
    GOD SE is so stupid, fucking fail
    We should all send them checks instead of credit card payments and put big frowny faces on the checks each month.

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    Looking at the other Augment thread, it looks like you'll spend a ton a time and money trying to rival counterpart gear.

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    Really, what's it boil down to in the end? Better equipped players all around so we can kill colibri faster >_> Yeah making gear obsolete that took months to get sucks, but the game isn't about getting gear..its about wasting RL time >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin View Post
    Because if Neosutra can't lord over everyone else from his Tower of Reason and FFXI Items he ceases to be. Hauteclaire is one of the tools he uses to subjugate the lesser beings and those who have a Fauxclaire devalue his Superiority.

    In any case, FFXI has always made non-endgame items stack up well against endgame items. Many of the best items in the game (Maat's Cap, Wally Turban, Mission Rewards) are gotten without touching Ein, Salvage, HNMs, whatever. Some of the older endgame events like Dynamis and Limbus are easily done without any talent or gear by now thanks to the power creep (it's absurdly slow in FFXI, but it exists). So who really cares if having a Hauteclaire means you got lucky at Mog Bonanza instead of getting lucky off of a Khim drop? You don't fucking need it, it doesn't matter.
    I swear you dont even read threads before you respond with trolling attack posts.

    Are you really that butthurt from the religion threads?

    Im not even really arguing any given side in this debate, I just understand people being upset when SE spits in their face after programming so many shitty drop rates and walls for some items, just to have them replaced by 5 min in VoS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin View Post
    In any case, FFXI has always made non-endgame items stack up well against endgame items. Many of the best items in the game (Maat's Cap, Wally Turban, Mission Rewards) are gotten without touching Ein, Salvage, HNMs, whatever.
    This.

    And this thread is awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    no one thinks you're cool.
    I think Day is cool

    protip: day has his own fucking font, you just have delicious tears

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    I'm in the camp that thinks this Weskit is probably overpowered/there should be more of a gap between the best possible augments and King/Salvage gear... but I remember a few months ago when augment first came out hordes of people were bitching about SE's ineptitude because of how they "overlimited" augmenting and because they wouldn't be able to create ghetto-Adaberks by Augmenting Haubys.

    TLDR = No one's ever satisfied with any update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    I swear you dont even read threads before you respond with trolling attack posts.
    lol

    Are you really that butthurt from the religion threads?
    rofl

    Im not even really arguing any given side in this debate, I just understand people being upset when SE spits in their face after programming so many shitty drop rates and walls for some items, just to have them replaced by 5 min in VoS.
    After this many years, seriously, you have to be used to it. It's how shit is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gredival View Post
    I'm in the camp that thinks this Weskit is probably overpowered/there should be more of a gap between the best possible augments and King/Salvage gear... but I remember a few months ago when augment first came out hordes of people were bitching about SE's ineptitude because of how they limited augmenting was and because they wouldn't be able to create pieces of super gear.

    No one's ever satisfied with any update.
    SE has always sucked at creating gear in a logical fashion. They hit the sweet spot with a few sets (Homam comes to mind) but in general, it's been what they've been the worst at.

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