Dear GOP, regarding Birthers

[Ezek]

So they found the birther from the OP video and she's even crazier than we already thought!
YouTube - REVEALED! WGMD Radio RE: Mike Castle on PeeBo's Birth Certificate.

The comments for that video are hilarious, how can people be so fucking stupid?

[Dimmauk]

The comments for that video are hilarious, how can people be so fucking stupid?

This
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Someone do it now.

[Olo401]

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/attac...1&d=1248733554

[Cephius]

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/attac...1&d=1248733554

Clearly, Obama altered that document by adding the black box over his certifacte number, thereby making the document itself invalid. DEPORT HIM TO MEXICO

[Correction]

I thought Dimm had something more like this in mind:

http://i31.tinypic.com/2ywwhi1.jpg

Also how to corner birther congressmen on their bullshit. The guy is a little obnoxious but the reaction of the congressmen gave me a chuckle.

[Olo401]

Mike Stark's been doin that kinda guerrilla journalism thing for a while.. he used to post regularly over on DailyKos until he, like many of us, realized kos is a fraud.

[Lee]

Hawaii: Obama birth certificate is real - USATODAY.com

In an attempt to quash persistent rumors that President Obama was not born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, Hawaii's health director reiterated Monday afternoon that she has personally seen Obama's birth certificate in the Health Department's archives:

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."

On Oct. 31, Fukino originally tried to put an end to the belief among "birthers" that Obama was born in Kenya and thus was ineligible to run for the office of president.

Despite Fukino's statements, the issue has continued to resonate from Capitol Hill to the national airwaves.

Last week, CNN's Lou Dobbs demanded Obama's original birth certificate. CNN/U.S. President Jon Klein told staffers of Lou Dobbs Tonight that the issue is a "dead" story, Kline told the Los Angeles Times in an interview published Sunday.

In an e-mail, the Times reported, Klein wrote that CNN researchers determined that Obama's 1961 birth certificate no longer exists because Hawaiian officials had discarded paper documents in 2001 — a claim denied Monday by Hawaiian health officials.

In 2001, Hawaii's paper documents were reproduced in electronic format, but "any paper data prior to that still exists," Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said.

Okubo would not say where Obama's original birth certificate is but said, "We have backups for all of our backups."

A congressional resolution introduced by Rep. Neil Abercrombie, D-Hawaii, to commemorate the 50th anniversary of island statehood was delayed Monday.

The resolution includes a clause noting Obama's Hawaiian birthplace. The line "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961" appeared to be construed by birthers as a thinly veiled attempt to get Congress to affirm Obama's U.S. citizenship, said Dave Helfert, an Abercrombie spokesman.

As the issue came to a vote Monday, Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., rose to object, saying there was not a quorum present. The House later voted 378-0 to approve the resolution. Bachmann voted in favor of the resolution.

Birthers denounce the notion that Obama was born in Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, despite court rulings and statements by Fukino and Hawaii's Republican governor, Linda Lingle.

lol at CNN researchers lying and sneaky resolutions trying to state Obama's "birthplace". All of this prompts more speculation and intrigue really. :/

Also, the fact that the actual document "exists" means this shit could be quashed easily. And no, don't bring up the Birth Announcement which is not a valid Birth Certificate apparently (supposedly people born outside the USA have had Hawaiian Birth Announcements issued).

To those who say news should be covering more important stuff... Is the legality of the highest office in the United States not important enough? Yes, I understand the Healthcare situation is not being addressed by the media at large despite its importance. The thing you're missing though is that this isn't really being covered either, and in my opinion if Obama was not qualified to be in Office that is a major issue covering all that he has done in the past few months.

Before anyone says "BUT DR. FUKINO SAW IT AND SHE SAID SO E.T.C.", why should these birthers take her word for it? Should we just take every word our government issues as truth? Just show them the damn thing and shut them the fuck up.

[Rhinox]

if you're going to post something supporting your crackpot theory it might help your cause if you didn't post it along with an article which pretty much confirms you're an idiot.

[Jaybar]

And no, don't bring up the Birth Announcement which is not a valid Birth Certificate apparently (supposedly people born outside the USA have had Hawaiian Birth Announcements issued).

Technically you are right. If you are from a foreign country and legally adopted in the state of Hawaii, you are certified for a Certificate of Birth.

You really think Obama is just going to pull his ONLY real Birth Certificate out of protective hiding to show everyone he's an Amerkan? There's a perfectly good video out there that has high resolution footage of his certificate. I really, no, I shouldn't even be responding to this bullshit.

[Ardrial]

if you're going to post something supporting your crackpot theory it might help your cause if you didn't post it along with an article which pretty much confirms you're an idiot.

*slowclap*

[Ruiner]

LOL, Orly Taitz is on The Colbert Report and she just broke Godwin's Law.

[Headspace]

orly?

[Kuya]

Meanwhile...

[Jer]

The only thing I find odd about his birth certificate is that his mother's name is Stanley. And that's only because I didn't know it before.

To those who say news should be covering more important stuff... Is the legality of the highest office in the United States not important enough? Yes, I understand the Healthcare situation is not being addressed by the media at large despite its importance. The thing you're missing though is that this isn't really being covered either, and in my opinion if Obama was not qualified to be in Office that is a major issue covering all that he has done in the past few months.

He was born in the U.S. He is qualified to be President. Accept it. Trying to say airtime should be given to people who refuse to believe the truth is the same as giving airtime to people trying to prove the Earth is flat.

[Lee]

The only thing I find odd about his birth certificate is that his mother's name is Stanley. And that's only because I didn't know it before.



He was born in the U.S. He is qualified to be President. Accept it. Trying to say airtime should be given to people who refuse to believe the truth is the same as giving airtime to people trying to prove the Earth is flat.

I accept the fact but I grow more skeptical when the things I have posted pop up. The story itself has done many renovations from paperless to backup to e.t.c., and frankly, to anyone who knows how to spot something wrong/fishy, the first clue is a changing face.

It's pretty lame that you guys are really not getting the point, the problem these birthers have is that they have some substance to the contrary of what is given, and the fact their suspicions could be destroyed with showing the real birth certificate (this is the part where you guys disconnect, I'll say it again)showing the real birth certificate WHICH DOES EXIST except locked away by Hawaiian health officials claiming that those who do not have tangible interest are not allowed to see the birth certificate. When an American citizen, does not have 'tangible interest' to see something that would qualify a President, it rings alarm bells in my book.

The Earth is flat analogy is terrible, show me someone who brings up compelling substance to make me suspicious that the Earth is really flat and I'll withdraw this statement.

[zoobernut]

When did they not show the real birth certificate? Am I being Wooshed? Was it not posted in several places in this thread already? Was it not explained that all birth certs. were digitized in Hawaii?

Was it not explained that ultimately it doesn't matter if John Q. Public can't see the birth cert. because you can be damn sure well that everyone who actually matters has seen it, including the GOP?

Seriously if there was ANY base to this retarded conspiracy theory the GOP would jump the fuck all over this, and he would have never gotten clearance to hold the highest position of government in this country. How naive can you be. I had to show my birth cert. just to get a gaming license for crying out loud.

[Lee]

When did they not show the real birth certificate? Am I being Wooshed? Was it not posted in several places in this thread already? Was it not explained that all birth certs. were digitized in Hawaii?

That is not the official birth certificate. It's a document that states that another document exists, not even a copy of the original. It was explained that the birth certificates were digitized and despite the CNN researcher team's hard work claiming the paper documents were discarded, they ultimately were proven wrong by Hawaiian health officials stating that the paper documents DO exist.

Was it not explained that ultimately it doesn't matter if John Q. Public can't see the birth cert. because you can be damn sure well that everyone who actually matters has seen it, including the GOP?

I don't agree with this at all, citizens of the United States have every right to inquire about the birth certificate. This is supposed to be a republic, right?

Seriously if there was ANY base to this retarded conspiracy theory the GOP would jump the fuck all over this, and he would have never gotten clearance to hold the highest position of government in this country. How naive can you be. I had to show my birth cert. just to get a gaming license for crying out loud.

Ultimately, I am a believer that Obama is a citizen of the United States for these obvious reasons. However, that doesn't stop speculation when the stuff I have posted before keeps coming and frankly, I believe in the right these birther's have to see the document proving them wrong.

Please, if you spend a few seconds reading my previous posts next time, you wouldn't have come in here asking for directions.

[aurik]

I don't believe any Tom Dick or Harry has the right to demand the president do anything. Determining eligibility is the job of the various commissions that oversee the presidential election. In this election, they determined then-Senator Obama to qualify as a natural born citizen, and hence eligible.

End.
Of.
Story.

[Cephius]

I don't believe any Tom Dick or Harry has the right to demand the president do anything. Determining eligibility is the job of the various commissions that oversee the presidential election. In this election, they determined then-Senator Obama to qualify as a natural born citizen, and hence eligible.

End.
Of.
Story.

This. I don't think Obama should succumb to any of these conspiracy theorists, nor give this topic the time of day. There has already been adequate evidence from the media, the state of Hawaii, and the fact that he's served in the Senate to prove he's a US citizen.

[Tyr]

It's pretty lame that you guys are really not getting the point, the problem these birthers have is that they have some substance to the contrary of what is given, and the fact their suspicions could be destroyed with showing the real birth certificate (this is the part where you guys disconnect, I'll say it again)showing the real birth certificate WHICH DOES EXIST except locked away by Hawaiian health officials claiming that those who do not have tangible interest are not allowed to see the birth certificate. When an American citizen, does not have 'tangible interest' to see something that would qualify a President, it rings alarm bells in my book.

The Earth is flat analogy is terrible, show me someone who brings up compelling substance to make me suspicious that the Earth is really flat and I'll withdraw this statement.

Moon landing didn't happen, NASA/Government cover-up, NASA mysteriously "lost" all of its evidence, and all the other stuff that people who say the moon landing didn't happen say.

What makes this not important is that it's baseless, and the birthers are just feeding an ulterior agenda with this.