The MMA Thread of 2009-Forever

[Despain]

Thats bullshit. I like how the second he palms his thigh they call it. that was no tap out.

mad bro?

[Rhyis.]

FNH is Matt Hughes in disguise. I have no doubt about this.

[Xno Kappa]

Man, seeing how this fight went about, Belfort might take it. This fights been long overdue anyways.

[Beleron]

that was incredible. as soon as i saw sonnen letting anderson have guard with his legs up high at that fifth round I knew that something was going to happen. sonnen basically either got tired or complacent at the end thinking he had it locked and allowed anderson to sink in the submission. really sick fight and i hope to see a rematch because it will be interesting to see a fight where anderson can actually stop at least one takedown lol.

[FNH]

If you want an unbiased view of a fight, steer clear of FNH

It isn't so much that I am in favor of sonnen it just pisses me off to see someone destroy the guy for 4 1/2 rounds and still lose as soon as the sub is locked. Now if The Phenom enters the ring, there will be nut hugging going on.

[FNH]

that was incredible. as soon as i saw sonnen letting anderson have guard with his legs up high at that fifth round I knew that something was going to happen. sonnen basically either got tired or complacent at the end thinking he had it locked and allowed anderson to sink in the submission. really sick fight and i hope to see a rematch because it will be interesting to see a fight where anderson can actually stop at least one takedown lol.

he did the same fucking bullshit with fliho controlled the match and got caught in an armbar like a retard.

[Xno Kappa]

Your avatar has a Sherdog logo on it. More then enough evidence to show who's doing the nuthugging in this thread.

[Rhyis.]

It isn't so much that I am in favor of sonnen it just pisses me off to see someone destroy the guy for 4 1/2 rounds and still lose as soon as the sub is locked.

Welcome to MMA? lol

Anderson has had it happen to him too, so it's not like it's just wrestlers get caught in random last round subs.

[FNH]

Sonnen fought like a bitch and STILL lost.

No one fucking touches Silva.

did you watch the fight prior to the 5th?

[Rowe]

They way these guys train, they are conditioned to tap while training to prevent injury. In competition it is hard to suppress the reflex to tap and it should clearly be that the ref waits to see multiple taps to stop a fight. I competed in Judo and tae Kwon Do but in Judo it was two or more taps or it wasn't a tap out. Just slapping your hand on down once on an opponents body did not count as a tap out, because it's a conditioned reflex you are fighting.

[Blarg]

So what do people think now about a gsp vs anderson fight. I'm even more confident now that GSP can ride out top position dominance to win a UD. The real danger in this fight comes in the first seconds of the round before a TD, and GSP being submitted from bottom is very unlikely.

Even with that said I would probably favour Anderson by a slight margin.

[FNH]

Your avatar has a Sherdog logo on it. More then enough evidence to show who's doing the nuthugging in this thread.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/200...ainobvious.jpg


PS: laziness of not taking out a sherdog logo from a google image doesn't mean jack. Also, I was talking about me rooting for Vitor.

[Rhyis.]

he did the same fucking bullshit with fliho controlled the match and got caught in an armbar like a retard.

Filho only loses when there's invisible forces at work. Don't hate.

[FNH]

o but in Judo it was two or more taps or it wasn't a tap out. Just slapping your hand on down once on an opponents body did not count as a tap out, because it's a conditioned reflex you are fighting.

I was trying to find a defined rule in the unified mma rules, but to no avail. I was thinking I had remembered reading it to be 3 or more taps or verbal, but I couldn't find anything. So I guess refs can just have a knee jerk reaction.

[FNH]

Filho only loses when there's invisible forces at work. Don't hate.

Or his drugs habits get in the way. Is it team blackhouse you all love or just brazilians in general?

[Blarg]

They way these guys train, they are conditioned to tap while training to prevent injury. In competition it is hard to suppress the reflex to tap and it should clearly be that the ref waits to see multiple taps to stop a fight. I competed in Judo and tae Kwon Do but in Judo it was two or more taps or it wasn't a tap out. Just slapping you hand on down once on an opponents body did not count as a tap out, because it's a conditioned reflex you are fighting.

that would probably be good to see, but a lot of the time the 'single tap' comes from the feeling of inevitability and people who are actually meaning to tap and are pissed off that they have to do it because in a few seconds they are going to sleep. the many taps is often a pain tap from the urgency of the situation

[Xno Kappa]

did you watch the fight prior to the 5th?

did you watch the fight after the 4th?

What the fuck are we even talking about anymore lol. This is MMA, submissions happen all the time, yes, Sonnen was dominating but he lost. :dealwithit.jpg:

Back on topic, I'm even more confident now that GSP would beat Silva given time to properly bulk up. Silva would basically have to finish the fight before a TD because I don't see GSP getting caught from a sub while he's in dominant position.

[Beleron]

problem is if you don't stop a fight as soon as you see a person tapping you are going to risk a huge amount of injuries. maybe not in that fight but how about a really well sunk armbar and the ref waits to see if the victim taps more than 2 times meanwhile the guy pulls even harder breaking his arm completely. To me a tap is a tap regardless of conditioning. yeah it sucks if you tap too early but hey, mma is not the only thing in life where you can get fucked over because of a small mind slip. There are no second chances besides the opportunity for a rematch. imo that was a tap and the fight should have been stopped.

[Blarg]

so, does anyone know what the deal was with the sub being held on for a long time? It seems like Chael wasn't aware the ref was there but since andersons back was to us I can't tell if he knew the fight was being stopped because he continued to pull on the arm and Chael had to tap a couple more times.

[Rhyis.]

I competed in Judo and tae Kwon Do but in Judo it was two or more taps or it wasn't a tap out. Just slapping your hand on down once on an opponents body did not count as a tap out, because it's a conditioned reflex you are fighting.

So you competed in both tachi-waza and ne-waza? When I took Judo my school focused mostly on Nage no Kata so we only competed in pure tachi-waza tournaments.