The MMA Thread of 2009-Forever

**tyven** · 2012-12-05 10:01

edgar arguably does more with his boxing than cruz has done. im willing to bet cruz is either even or has the reach advantage in his fights while frankie was always a weight class smaller

**AidenCarby** · 2012-12-05 10:03

Dom's problem is he breaks his hands every fucking fight.

**AidenCarby** · 2012-12-05 10:05

Originally Posted by Andalusian girls

Ali is nowhere near the greatest boxer of all time

Can be argued otherwise, I can see people throwing in Sugar Ray Robinson and Joe Louis into the mix but Ali is the greatest imo.

**Xno Kappa** · 2012-12-05 10:06

Originally Posted by AidenCarby

Dom's problem is he breaks his hands every fucking fight.

It's funny you say that because breaking your hands is synomomous with either hitting a fucked up spot, or throwing a punch completely wrong in boxing lol. Once that shit breaks once it's breaking over and over.

**Dimmauk** · 2012-12-05 10:07

Originally Posted by Andalusian girls

Ali is nowhere near the greatest boxer of all time

Dude, even Bruce Lee thought Ali would be a tough fight.

Before Anderson did it to Forest, Ali did it first.

http://gifs.gifbin.com/1234778873_Mu...ng_punches.gif

**AidenCarby** · 2012-12-05 10:09

Originally Posted by Hirokei Kiaza

It's funny you say that and talk about his boxing because breaking your hands is synomomous with either hitting a fucked up spot, or throwing a punch completely wrong lol. Once that shit breaks once it's breaking over and over.

Or being 135 pounds punching people in the face with 4oz gloves. Boxers/MMA fighters break their hands all the time, doesn't mean their inaccurate or punching the wrong areas.

**Xno Kappa** · 2012-12-05 10:12

Rocky Marciano was the greatest boxer of all time.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-J6fl1mpEG1...erica-em13.jpg

**AidenCarby** · 2012-12-05 10:13

Originally Posted by Hirokei Kiaza

Rocky Marciano was the greatest boxer of all time.
http://http://msp174.photobucket.com...erica-em13.jpg

Good top5, but no.

**Andalusian girls** · 2012-12-05 10:31

Ali was certainly the loudest fighter of all time and most popular (and arguably the most seminal sports icon of the 20th century) but i've never come across any legitimate boxing afficianado that considered Ali the greatest fighter of all time, most don't even have him as the greatest heavyweight of all time.

Sugar Ray Robinson is clearly the goat, any rankings that doesn't have him at the top is like a list without Jordan at the top of greatest basketball players. Robinson during the prime of his career was 128-1 and the only loss (Raging Bull) came after he moved up to middleweight once the welterweight + lightweight divisions were cleaned out and he went on to avenge that loss 5 times despite being outweighed by 10-15 pounds in every one of his fights with LaMotta. overall he beat 10 Hall of Famers in his career, Ali beat 5, and Ali was fighting guys his own size Ray was 1 or 2 weight classes about his natural weight for most of his career. athletically perfect, much speed, knockout power in both hands, tremendous reflexes and his technique was a flawless combination of offense-defense that led to him knocking guys out while moving backwards forwards and sideways while never once being knocked out himself in a 200 fight career.

after him Willie Pep (started his career 175-1), Henry Armstrong (held lightweight, featherweight, and welterweight crowns simultaneously back when there were still only 8 weight classes), Joe Louis (11 year, 25 defense title run) round out my clear top 4. then you can start talking about Ali along with guys like Duran, Leonard, Johnson.

'nowhere near' was an overstatement Ali is undoubtedly top 10 but it's not even really debatable that you can rank him at #1 he's just so damn popular he's universally regarded as the greatest. you guys will feel my frustration soon enough when some charismatic American comes along declaring himself the greatest ever and people forget who Fedor and Anderson were and what they did.

**tyven** · 2012-12-05 10:40

hey but what about money mayweather. UNDEFEATED

**Xno Kappa** · 2012-12-05 10:43

Ali himself candidly said Sugar Ray Robinson was the GOAT lol.

**Andalusian girls** · 2012-12-05 10:46

Originally Posted by tyven

hey but what about money mayweather. UNDEFEATED

greatest boxer of this generation along with Pacquiao, sure-fire first ballot hall of famer. if he hadn't ducked Tszyu + Margarito + Williams + Pac (and accepted Mosley + Cotto before they were shot fighters) he'd be looking at the top 10. never cared much for risky fights though.

**AidenCarby** · 2012-12-05 10:57

On a side note, I had a renergy sandwich last night before I went to the gym. I've never had so much energy in my life, will find youtube video of it, ya'll niggas need to try this shit.

**AidenCarby** · 2012-12-05 11:00

Didn't make the drink, but the sandwich is fucking go. DOITFGTS

**tyven** · 2012-12-05 11:56

oh god its a 15 min video. WHATS IN THE SANGWICH

**AidenCarby** · 2012-12-05 11:58

Kale, egg whites, avocado, almond butter on wheat toast.

**Hitoshura** · 2012-12-05 12:19

My god he's like a miniJDS

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iG_9StswM2...0/10002021.gif

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cM6xhiTB34...l+Torres+2.gif

Love dem uppercuts.

**Matthias** · 2012-12-05 20:51

Originally Posted by Hirokei Kiaza

Once that shit breaks once it's breaking over and over.

we saw that with fedor. that guy's hand was broken more often than it was whole.

for some reason i'm really looking forward to henderson vs. diaz even though i know very little of either of those fighters. probably because there doesn't seem to be any kind of real consensus on who's going to win.

**Xno Kappa** · 2012-12-05 20:58

Every line I've seen has Henderson as a slight favorite, usually between -180 ~ -140.

**Rhyis.** · 2012-12-05 20:58

Benson. Easily.

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