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    Apoc DRK Merits

    Ok so i don't know if this has already been posted (I searched with no results) but I'm at a loss to what to do with my drk merits. I currently have 5/5 LR effect and recast, 4/5 desperate blows and 1/5 dark seal for zergs. Now I dont know if to do Diabolic eye for non-merit situations since I parse at capped acc on most merit mobs (nin & thfs), or to do muted soul. The only reason I think muted soul is I already end up tanking things in dynamis einherjar limbus etc. I was hoping that maybe muted soul would make it more managable for other dd/tanks to take mobs off when souleater is active or at least make it so the mob is not superglued to me after souleater. Also I'm a taru, if that makes any difference in opinion for the whole souleater thing (capped hp merit).

    Thoughts?

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    Why only 4/5 desperate blows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphus View Post
    Why only 4/5 desperate blows?
    I believe Hasso takes care of the rest of the haste?

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    well i with hasso up you only need 3/5, but i was waiting to see if I should do diabolic eye. cuz if I do it would be 5/5 i would think. If i do muted soul i'd do 4/5 there and do the last desperate blows

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    5/5 DB is first priority. Don't worry about hasso replacement.

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    Muted soul is crap, don't bother with it. Unless the other dd tanks are relic level, nothing's gonna peel the mob off of you. I did 4\5 db, 1\5 ds and 5\5 de. Acc is one of those things that never become redundant

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    I've personalli stuck /w 5/5 LR Recast, 5/5 SE Recast. LR Recast doesn't need much explanation. I chose SE recast because I find myself using it a lot. The game has changed a lot in the past 3 years, and MP conversation is much easier than it used to be. Add that to the constant draining from Apoc, my mage will often have extra MP to spend. I'll usualli SE /w WS or SE on LR and drain /w Cata to get most of my HP back. The extra damage from SE is amazing, not to mention it's +20 acc. At the very least you should be using it everytime it's up for WS.

    I went /w 5/5 DB because I find myself using /nin a lot for random events. 1/5 Dark Seal because it's randomly handy to have. The rest I tossed to Diabolic Eye. Although accuracy is rarely an issue, you can still have an alternate build for when DE is up which replaces acc /w more attack+~

    I don't see much point for muted soul as its only active when Souleater is on... and anytime you're using souleater you're going to be taking hate, even if you're -40% enmity.

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    LR 5/5 : nothing to explain
    SE 5/5 : you will use SE pretty often with apoc, something like souleater @40ish% TP > cut 3-4 times > catastrophe
    DB 5/5: so you can use seigan + third eye and not waste time on dread spikes on stuffs like meripo, can also stack spike on top for extra survivability. also sueful when your in einherjar /nin situation
    i demerrited dark seal and went 5/5 eye

    well losing that seal sure hurt me a bit......and tbh i seldom use eye.

    so maybe you can, and i will probably go 4/5 eye 1/5 seal

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    You should definitly do Diabolic Eye, great on more evasive mobs, + you can swap on more Att based gear and dorp some ACC while it is in effect, and have modified WS sets aswell. Diabolic Eye is great in any way.

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    Thanks all for the feedback, like anything else the answer is simple once some1 gives it to you lol. So im thinking I'm gonna revamp and go LR 5/5, SE 5/5. Then do DB 5/5, DE 4/5 and Dseal 1/5. I dont know how I feel about losing Dseal for zerging but if I see big returns on DE it might be a path I may take. Any feelings about losing the Dseal? It never works vs bahamutV2 due to its stoneskin at the start. a 300+drain on DL is always nice as well as KV. But is it too situational to merit getting it?

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    Up to you, I wouldn't demerit my Dark Seal though, I keep it 1/5 and DB 4/5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridell View Post
    You should definitly do Diabolic Eye, great on more evasive mobs, + you can swap on more Att based gear and dorp some ACC while it is in effect, and have modified WS sets aswell. Diabolic Eye is great in any way.
    I cant say that I've had acc issues on WS even though I have very little in the way of acc gear for the WS. I was under the impression that catastrophe had a hidden acc bonus just by looking at my gear vs how much I land the WS.

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    I was 4DB 1DS 5DE for ageees... then I figured keeping Dark Seal for a marginal improvement on a handful of mobs wasn't worth losing another merit of Desperate Blows which is useful on just about anything I ever fight on DRK.

    Half of the time on stuff like KV/DL etc I find you'll make up any damage difference from a Drain2 at the start by simply engaging early instead of casting unless the zerg is really long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    I was 4DB 1DS 5DE for ageees... then I figured keeping Dark Seal for a marginal improvement on a handful of mobs wasn't worth losing another merit of Desperate Blows which is useful on just about anything I ever fight on DRK.

    Half of the time on stuff like KV/DL etc I find you'll make up any damage difference from a Drain2 at the start by simply engaging early instead of casting unless the zerg is really long.
    This is what I was thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epik View Post
    I cant say that I've had acc issues on WS even though I have very little in the way of acc gear for the WS. I was under the impression that catastrophe had a hidden acc bonus just by looking at my gear vs how much I land the WS.
    Yea no ACC issues for Catastrophe, I was being stupid, was thinking about Guillotine.

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