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  1. #1421
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    BUZZWORD BUZZWORD I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD, LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!
    I'm sorry it went over your head. Maybe this will be easier. You type a lot of words but in the end you say nothing. Better?

    Also, I find it completely ironic that you accuse other people of adding nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McGoonagle View Post
    The only real problem here is that you over-interpreting very limited data. We don't know, for example, what goes in those ability slots.
    No, I think you'll find that I'm using a very generous portion of "if's." I'm neither assuming that there will be more to the system than we've already seen, nor that there won't be. But I'm not going to speculate about things for which there is no evidence.

    You don't ask for evidence that something does not exist. Bit of a falsifiability dilemma there. Regardless, from where I sit, you were the one making assumptions. I'm merely evaluating potential scenarios.

    But anyway, this conversation has turned far too silly for my tastes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kachi View Post
    No, I think you'll find that I'm using a very generous portion of "if's." I'm neither assuming that there will be more to the system than we've already seen, nor that there won't be. But I'm not going to speculate about things for which there is no evidence.
    Which is exactly what you were doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kachi View Post
    You don't ask for evidence that something does not exist. Bit of a falsifiability dilemma there.
    Well you shouldn't come to conclusions based on evidence that doesn't exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kachi View Post
    Regardless, from where I sit, you were the one making assumptions. I'm merely evaluating potential scenarios.
    Which ones were those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    I'm sorry it went over your head. Maybe this will be easier. You type a lot of words but in the end you say nothing. Better?

    Also, I find it completely ironic that you accuse other people of adding nothing.
    But don't you know BRP is a god among men when it comes to video games. And knows all and is never wrong when it comes to what is considered a game or not or what is considered a genre or not. He is the sole person who sets definitions in the video game industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    But don't you know BRP is a god among men when it comes to video games. And knows all and is never wrong when it comes to what is considered a game or not or what is considered a genre or not. He is the sole person who sets definitions in the video game industry.
    Preach it brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by McGoonagle View Post
    Which is exactly what you were doing.

    Well you shouldn't come to conclusions based on evidence that doesn't exist.

    Which ones were those?
    Let me break this down for you one last time.

    I was providing my impression of what we currently know (very little) without any disillusionment that we know everything. You then rebuked my analysis with your own impressions based on speculation.

    I'm not going to do this dance with you. You were wrong, but no one really cares. Hell, I don't really even care. I'm just bored. The question is, am I bored enough to keep having this conversation with you? The answer is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kachi View Post
    Let me break this down for you one last time.

    I was providing my impression of what we currently know (very little) without any disillusionment that we know everything. You then rebuked my analysis with your own impressions based on speculation.

    I'm not going to do this dance with you. You were wrong, but no one really cares. Hell, I don't really even care. I'm just bored. The question is, am I bored enough to keep having this conversation with you? The answer is

    With the exception of speculation about a possible contribution from gear (which is actually supported by comments from people who tried the alpha version at Gamescom), my comments were grounded in the fact that we only have one firm fact about job selection. That is that the weapon plays a major role. Beyond that, we know nothing and we should not assume that weapons selection alone will define the character.

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    Gamescom 2009: Producers Hiromichi Tanaka and Sage Sundi Talk Final Fantasy XIV | One Last Continue:

    An interview posted over at One Last Continue. All the same stuff but they did have some info about player names, player mounts, and airship battles.

    "they are trying to inplement a name/surname system in the game to allow people who may use the same singular identity, such as Sephiroth, to have a dual name in order to keep arguments about identity theft to a minimum."

    "One last thing we were able to get out of Tanaka was the possibility of having Airship battles after seeing similar trysts in the CG trailer from E3 this past June. More specific announcements regarding player ‘mounts’ will be coming at a later date."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiin View Post
    Gamescom 2009: Producers Hiromichi Tanaka and Sage Sundi Talk Final Fantasy XIV | One Last Continue:

    An interview posted over at One Last Continue. All the same stuff but they did have some info about player names, player mounts, and airship battles.

    "they are trying to inplement a name/surname system in the game to allow people who may use the same singular identity, such as Sephiroth, to have a dual name in order to keep arguments about identity theft to a minimum."

    "One last thing we were able to get out of Tanaka was the possibility of having Airship battles after seeing similar trysts in the CG trailer from E3 this past June. More specific announcements regarding player ‘mounts’ will be coming at a later date."
    I really enjoyed both interview videos and it was nice having the translator's voice along with it. The video shots of XI spliced up with XIV was really nice to see with some really lovely shots from XI areas. Was weird seeing the play by play style comparisons of XIV and WOW though, that was some twisted stimulus response therapy right there.

    Edit, I was referring to the two FFXIV English voice over interviews videos with Tanaka and Sundi.
    Two parts on "Game Mechanics" and "Online Competition," posted on Sept 1 from Gametrailers.com and followed up on Eorzeapedia.
    Link:http://www.gametrailers.com/game/fin...v-online/11432

    Not sure now if it is the same interviews so I will check out this link too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    I'm sorry it went over your head. Maybe this will be easier. You type a lot of words but in the end you say nothing. Better?

    Also, I find it completely ironic that you accuse other people of adding nothing.
    I hate to say it, but I find you finding that ironic, ironic itself.

    As is this, and this, and this, and this, and that...

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    I find it ironic that you find it ironic that he finds it ironic.

    Not really...just wanted to say that.

    The name thing is rather interesting. Would be strange to have to read three names, your name, sub title and linkshell / guild title. Good to find out this early so I can make some decent combination.

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    Friend just got back from the Gamestop event in Vegas and they say it will be on 360 at launch. Also said it looks amazing

  14. #1434
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    I hate to say it, but I find you finding that ironic, ironic itself.

    As is this, and this, and this, and this, and that...
    I miss you Max

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    <3

    Where you at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    <3

    Where you at?
    Still on Carby! We gonna have to make sure we get on the same server for 14!

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    I'm on Carby right now you asshole.

    lol

    <= Tankaru, someone ganked Maxaru when I migrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronfar View Post
    Friend just got back from the Gamestop event in Vegas and they say it will be on 360 at launch. Also said it looks amazing
    Strange that was a quick turn around from what they said at GDC where 360 was on hold till M$ sorted stuff out with them and it would be a PS3 and PC at release exclusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovian View Post
    Strange that was a quick turn around from what they said at GDC where 360 was on hold till M$ sorted stuff out with them and it would be a PS3 and PC at release exclusive.
    They said they wanted to put it on 360 as well but M$ was holding back due to live. FFXI had POL to fall back on, now SE has to use Live if they want to throw it onto the xbox 360, so money can indeed talk so who's to say they didn't strike up a deal? Gaming industry isn't static.

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    Well but was the info confirmed anywhere? I'm not believing in "friend of a friend" etc. only. Some real source please

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