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    Exactly, until I see a link or read the words right off Elmer's sweet fingers, I will not believe any random stuff like that. Seeing as how many random 360 rumors get thrown around when 360 fans don't get a game right away.
    I remember the years of horror with MGS4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronfar View Post
    Friend just got back from the Gamestop event in Vegas and they say it will be on 360 at launch. Also said it looks amazing
    Your friend is either trolling you or gravely mistaken. I'm sure they are developing for 360 at the moment; but M$ is having issues with letting MMO's on the console so while companies are still co-developing on the chance that they will most likely eventually be put on the platform that doesn't translate to it will be there at launch. The same thing happened with Champions Online.

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    Xbox live is essentially AOL after broadband. Why would you ever pay to access the internet when you are already paying for internet service?

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    You're not. You're paying to access the servers which content is held on, be it from the Marketplace or a multiplayer game that plays over XBL.

    It costs them to maintain, charging to access them is a return on that.

    Why should you pay to play FFXI? Or WoW? You already pay for your internet, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Folant View Post
    You're not. You're paying to access the servers which content is held on, be it from the Marketplace or a multiplayer game that plays over XBL.

    It costs them to maintain, charging to access them is a return on that.
    You tell him! It's just like PSN and Steam, you have to pay for the upkeep otherwise the company wouldn't be abl.. wait a second.

    And stop bumping this thread with this stupid shit, gamescom is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras View Post
    You tell him! It's just like PSN and Steam, you have to pay for the upkeep otherwise the company wouldn't be abl.. wait a second.

    And stop bumping this thread with this stupid shit, gamescom is over.
    Aren't steam servers all third party servers? When I used steam for counterstike I don't think I've ever seen an official steam server. Though, I haven't used steam in a loooooong time or have any steam games, so I don't know if they have official servers.

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    They do for L4D at the very least, or did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Folant View Post
    You're not. You're paying to access the servers which content is held on, be it from the Marketplace or a multiplayer game that plays over XBL.

    It costs them to maintain, charging to access them is a return on that.

    Why should you pay to play FFXI? Or WoW? You already pay for your internet, right?
    Your analogy to FFXI and WoW doesn't make sense.

    XBL doesn't handle anything for FFXI and wouldn't for FFXIV. It doesn't cost MS anything to let people connect to SE games. MS is just looking to steal a slice of everyone else's pie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    Your analogy to FFXI and WoW doesn't make sense.

    XBL doesn't handle anything for FFXI and wouldn't for FFXIV. It doesn't cost MS anything to let people connect to SE games. MS is just looking to steal a slice of everyone else's pie.
    You'll note also that I never said or implied anything of the sort.

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    Xboxlive makes the 360 money, plain and simple. That's why it exists.

    I won't bother posting it again (it's on this forum's section's front page still), but there was recently a report stating that it was indeed Xboxlive holding up FFXIV, or else it might very well have been a multi-console release day 1. I consider it dumb for anyone to think it's not coming eventually (especially if it's successful), but I doubt it will be on 360 next year at least if Sony PR is to be believed. It might be a long wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Folant View Post
    You'll note also that I never said or implied anything of the sort.
    Umm... yes, you did. Your sarcastic analogy asking why we should pay for WoW and FFXI proves that.

    MS wants everything to be handle with XBL Gold so they can get a cut. That is the extra portal you would have to pay for to get access to FFXIV. They tried to do it with FFXI, and they are going to try again with FFXIV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenai View Post
    Xboxlive makes the 360 money, plain and simple. That's why it exists.

    I won't bother posting it again (it's on this forum's section's front page still), but there was recently a report stating that it was indeed Xboxlive holding up FFXIV, or else it might very well have been a multi-console release day 1. I consider it dumb for anyone to think it's not coming eventually (especially if it's successful), but I doubt it will be on 360 next year at least if Sony PR is to be believed. It might be a long wait.
    Sony doesn't have any control over it and they know it. It's all Microsoft's own decision, and at this point it looks like they would rather not risk their plan to make everyone pay for Gold to do anything on XBL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    Sony doesn't have any control over it and they know it. It's all Microsoft's own decision, and at this point it looks like they would rather not risk their plan to make everyone pay for Gold to do anything on XBL.
    PR doesn't usually outright lie due to the law issues that can come up (false advertising ect), but they can stretch the truth. Sony PR stated the PS3 would be "the only console for FFXIV in 2010" or something along those lines. I'd be very surprised to see it on 360 next year, but after that I'll be expecting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenai View Post
    PR doesn't usually outright lie due to the law issues that can come up (false advertising ect), but they can stretch the truth. Sony PR stated the PS3 would be "the only console for FFXIV in 2010" or something along those lines. I'd be very surprised to see it on 360 next year, but after that I'll be expecting it.
    It will come whenever MS decides that they want to let have the same exception for FFXIV they made for FFXI.

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