NIN/RDM vs NIN/DRK

[Limlight]

I would disagree with that.

Odin: Pld > Nin - Having low manned several Odins, the extra 3-4000 each pld does in this fight helps ALOT.
Cerburus: Pld > Nin - Even takes extra spirit damage.
PW: Pld > Nin - Not even a comparison
ToAU Beastman kings: Pld > Nin (Most content from ToAU includes mobs that wipe shadows with -every- TP move and double or triple attack. No more of this "lol I attack slow, but hit really hard" shit.

Wyrms: Rdm >= Nin >= Pld (All 3 can get good resist builds and Nin and Rdm can generate better hate) due to limited atonement ability.

Old 3 Kings and Sky gods: Pld = Nin = Rdm = whatever, they are too god damned easy to even matter, but pld still offers more oshi~ and atonement damage to each fight.

People are still trivializing how powerful Chivalry, Cover enhancement (with relic body), and refresh pieces combined with devotion are to a good pld. I can literally SPAM cure3/4 till I am blue in the face and still have MP to spare in any given situation. When a Nin can deal decent damage, assist heal an entire alliance, reach -50% MDT and 50-60+ MDB, and press the help button anything they are in trouble, you can start making a comparison.

All of the arguements people have used here can be used for Rdm tank. Rdm tank infact can do just about anything a Nin does better. Shit ton of fast cast, more damage reduction, and greater MP/hate tools, and Nin is outclassed yet again.

just end the thread plz -_-

[Tricen]

NIN is pretty beast for Omega though, BRO.

[Nishida]

You can probably get a sense of how your LS is going to react to it by just asking, no need to wait until it is 75.

There are a lot of linkshells that find a strategy that works, and refuse to ever deviate too far from it. Logically, that makes a lot of sense. Playing it safe is the easiest way to guarantee your time isn't wasted. But this is responsible for creating a lot of unfounded prejudices too.

There is absolutely no reason why your NIN (or a NIN, assuming they are respectably geared) cannot be used, and used well, for non-HNM endgame. NIN is still, regardless of their advantages and disadvantages to PLD and RDM on HNMs, an excellent job if you tend to do a lot of things by yourself, or with one or two other friends.

I have BLU at 75 for stuff like that though..hmm..i dunno..maybe i should get nin to 50 for capped stuff and just unlock PLD and level that..seems like i'll have a much easier time with it even though i need MORE gear for it than NIN -_-;

[Yakoo]

Seriously, a good nin/drk will and can have more hate and stay at hate cap as a pld/nin, since the pld can not SPAM HIGH ENMITY stuff.
Nin/drk can spam hojo/kuray, bind, poison, sleep (all low mp cost) and absorb spells all the time. as nin/drk its more relaxing to tank, since you can stun and got more shadows. as a pld/nin you are more focused on your shadows, always recasting etc. xD
and about enmity: this value is really not important, a good tank wont need this. and dont say "but why dont make it better?" i say lulz

just my opinion ^^

[Limlight]

Seriously, a good nin/drk will and can have more hate and stay at hate cap as a pld/nin, since the pld can not SPAM HIGH ENMITY stuff.
Nin/drk can spam hojo/kuray, bind, poison, sleep (all low mp cost) and absorb spells all the time. as nin/drk its more relaxing to tank, since you can stun and got more shadows. as a pld/nin you are more focused on your shadows, always recasting etc. xD
and about enmity: this value is really not important, a good tank wont need this. and dont say "but why dont make it better?" i say lulz

just my opinion ^^

you've never seen a real pld in action then.

[Yakoo]

you've never seen a real pld in action then.

you've never seen a real nin/drk in action then =P

just kiddin, of course it depends on monster. Jailer of Love f.e. is pld/drk my favorite.

[Max™]

All the arguments about Nin/Drk and it's CE generation went out the window when Atonement happened. Pld/Nin can now make more VE on demand, and cap CE pretty quickly, WHILE doing pretty good damage.

Stun is still pwn though, there's a reason I just finished grinding Drk to 37.

[Neosutra]

you've never seen a real nin/drk in action then =P

just kiddin, of course it depends on monster. Jailer of Love f.e. is pld/drk my favorite.

You just stated 2 posts up that emnity doesnt matter because good tanks wont need it. Nothing you say for the rest of the thread carries any weight of importance.

[Yugl]

Seriously, a good nin/drk will and can have more hate and stay at hate cap as a pld/nin, since the pld can not SPAM HIGH ENMITY stuff.
Nin/drk can spam hojo/kuray, bind, poison, sleep (all low mp cost) and absorb spells all the time. as nin/drk its more relaxing to tank, since you can stun and got more shadows. as a pld/nin you are more focused on your shadows, always recasting etc. xD
and about enmity: this value is really not important, a good tank wont need this. and dont say "but why dont make it better?" i say lulz

just my opinion ^^

So NIN is better than PLD because it can spam high enmity stuff. At the same time, enmity values are not important to tanking. Got it.

[Tsuko_Asura]

So NIN is better than PLD because it can spam high enmity stuff. At the same time, enmity values are not important to tanking. Got it.

Mind blown

[Amastacia]

You just stated 2 posts up that emnity doesnt matter because good tanks wont need it. Nothing you say for the rest of the thread carries any weight of importance.

I held back from posting earlier when I saw that, and you just said it better than I would've.

I'm surprised people are still talking about NIN vs. PLD...

[Xavier]

The amount of enmity in this thread alone is mind boggling.

[Rocl]

The amount of enmity in this thread alone is mind boggling.

Oh you!