Puppetmaster Gear - The New Standard?

**Ratatapa** · 2009-07-31 15:20

i wanna try to enhance my PUP effictvness (sp) it's been a long time since i played pup, can i you rate my PUP gear + pet attachemnt, with helpful remarks plz.

Thx

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spoiler due to lengh

**Toth** · 2009-07-31 19:39

Is there a reason why don't you WS with Brutal earring?

**Ratatapa** · 2009-07-31 19:41

wasnt sure to use it or not but i'll use it.

Exept that? Stringing pummel usually do 300-400 in dynamis and i kinda feel it low

**Cream Soda** · 2009-07-31 20:19

Originally Posted by Ratatapa

wasnt sure to use it or not but i'll use it.

Exept that? Stringing pummel usually do 300-400 in dynamis and i kinda feel it low

Wasn't sure to use it or not? I don't understand.

**Ratatapa** · 2009-07-31 20:33

Wasn'T sure if i had to use for PUP WS (dumb i know)

**miokomioko** · 2009-07-31 21:05

If a WS -can- double attack, I don't think there's any reason to not use Brutal. AKA: all WS besides elemental and Asuran?

**Ratatapa** · 2009-07-31 21:17

i wasnt sure that Stringing was able to double, so sorry bout my ignorance on that part.

But you think exept the brutal there'S something else i can change to enhance my pup abilities? either from my gear or my attachement set?

**Plight** · 2009-07-31 22:05

I don't understand using Pahluwan over Pantin for WS since they're the same melee stats. Other than that, you don't need more than 79 INT for /SCH, so you could go for MP or -enmity or something in a few of those slots.

**Toth** · 2009-07-31 22:06

Originally Posted by Ratatapa

i wasnt sure that Stringing was able to double, so sorry bout my ignorance on that part.

But you think exept the brutal there'S something else i can change to enhance my pup abilities? either from my gear or my attachement set?

Hmm, I would say add one flame ring/rajas instead of an accuracy ring (I do u-ring + flame), a quality body piece (ACP body or Enkidu), a potent belt for WSes, and Puppety Babouches+1 for weaponskills. I tend to WS in 30ish STR on ?WAR and I usually get a good 600-900 Stringing Pummels in dynamis (even more when DA and criticals proc), limbus, and einhejar. Sole sushi or meat can further the overall damage.

**miokomioko** · 2009-07-31 22:10

Originally Posted by Plight

I don't understand using Pahluwan over Pantin for WS since they're the same melee stats. Other than that, you don't need more than 79 INT for /SCH, so you could go for MP or -enmity or something in a few of those slots.

You... do... realize that... Pahluwan body has... + chance to crit... right? Stringing Pummel is a 5-hit crit WS. That is enough reason to swap it in instead of a different +10 acc body piece that has nothing else going for it.

**Plight** · 2009-07-31 22:12

Originally Posted by miokomioko

You... do... realize that... Pahluwan body has... + chance to crit... right? Stringing Pummel is a 5-hit crit WS. That is enough reason to swap it in instead of a different +10 acc body piece that has nothing else going for it.

But no one's ever shown it to effect crit rate outside the margin of error, while there is a very realistic chance that your automaton will either melee or weapon skill at least once while your weapon skill gear is equipped?

**Yugl** · 2009-07-31 22:13

I remember one parse showing Pahluwan body doing 2% LESS critical hits. I think it's safe to say that if it does grant critical % bonus, that it is insignificant.

**Toth** · 2009-07-31 22:15

Wasn't the p.body critical rate like...1%?

edit: beaten lol

**miokomioko** · 2009-07-31 22:23

Does that really matter though? +~1.5% is still a possible +~1.5% chance. I have my doubts that the stat written on that piece of gear is completely non-fuctional just because it's still clouded by parsing errors. Either way, my WS gear is on for probably a total of 1 second when I macro, I don't think it should ever really be past that. -10 Automaton Accuracy for 1 second is not going to make or break your Automaton's parse (especially sharpshot, which should be frame of choice in a PUP melee/ws situation) but a 1+% chance of critical hit on a WS probably has more of a potential to make a dent in the master's parse.

[insert gnarly math kids to prove me wrong]

**Ratatapa** · 2009-08-01 06:48

Originally Posted by Toth

Hmm, I would say add one flame ring/rajas instead of an accuracy ring (I do u-ring + flame), a quality body piece (ACP body or Enkidu), a potent belt for WSes, and Puppety Babouches+1 for weaponskills. I tend to WS in 30ish STR on ?WAR and I usually get a good 600-900 Stringing Pummels in dynamis (even more when DA and criticals proc), limbus, and einhejar. Sole sushi or meat can further the overall damage.

Ok well if you saw my gear, i can'T get rajas due to tamas ring.

Flame i don't have any yet, but ineed to get some for RNG WS, so that will do at same time.
Potent belt? ok i,ll watch for one.

As for body, well i need to restart doing ZNM, like i said i save ACP for RNG (rattk +10 and snapshot)

**BroodIfrit** · 2009-08-01 08:20

This is pretty much what I'm working with for PUP right now, Any advice for my builds?

TP Full Haste: FFXIGEAR.com
(working on more Salvage upgrades)
TP Full Accuracy: FFXIGEAR.com
(use mainly for Lurkers/the off-chance I don't use Spiritweaver in endgame)
Dragon Kick: FFXIGEAR.com
(rarely used anymore, still have it just in case though)
Stringing Pummel: FFXIGEAR.com
(haven't fully tested accuracy with Salade, dunno if I can drop Iota for Flame)
/RDM INT: FFXIGEAR.com
(working on /SCH for this set, ACP body used for RNG)

Also debating if I should use Wagh more often than Hades, as well as using Antares over Enkidu for Strining Pummel.

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