How the Health Crisis was solved 80 years ago.

[Sirrus_Asura]

who is the illiterate one again?

Show me how its absurd. I didn't say anything about armed robbery btw. But keep telling yourself I did.

[Rhinox]

What happens when you get caught driving without a license?

[Sirrus_Asura]

What happens when you get caught driving without a license?

You go to jail

[Rhinox]

Assuming its a "Right", I could walk up to my neighbor and demand that he gives me money for a life saving operation. After all, who is he to deny me of my right to heathcare?

You can go away now.

[guartz]

And if you resist, they shoot you.

[Rhinox]

You go to jail

You don't see the gun there?

[Beckwin]

missed your post in all the retardedness between you and rhinox.

ok, so you see a problem.

how do you describe said problem?

what do you propose ought/could be done to fix it? straightforward questions.

[Sirrus_Asura]

You can go away now.

LOL @ you thinking you've won.

Fun Fact: Law's Infringe on Rights. This is nothing new.

[Sirrus_Asura]

missed your post in all the retardedness between you and rhinox.

ok, so you see a problem. what do you propose ought/could be done to fix it? straightforward question.

I'll give you 3:

Not Corrupt Government

Or Easier to Control / Maintain Government(State Government Idea I brought up)

Free Market.

[Rhinox]

missed your post in all the retardedness between you and rhinox.

ok, so you see a problem. what do you propose ought/could be done to fix it? straightforward question.

He already stated what he wants done. he wants it left to the states and if poor people can't afford to move to said states he wants a federally funded program to move all the poor and homeless people to a state that approves universal healthcare.

[guartz]

missed your post in all the retardedness between you and rhinox.

ok, so you see a problem.

how do you describe said problem?

what do you propose ought/could be done to fix it? straightforward questions.

I made a pretty decent recommendation to lower costs, best part, wouldn't cost anyone anything. Only make people money.

[Sirrus_Asura]

Don't even bother saying "The Free Market Way Wont Work", government already has regulation over the insurance. That's not free market.

[Sirrus_Asura]

He already stated what he wants done. he wants it left to the states and if poor people can't afford to said states he wants a federally funded program to move all the poor and homeless people to a state that approves universal healthcare.

Leave the politics to the adults

Do you laugh after you read your posts? Cause they're hilarious from my end.

[guartz]

You don't see the gun there?

So, you make a good point. If I want to drive my car, I better have a license or people with guns will manhandle me.

Just not sure how this relates to you saying that guns are not involved with law enforcement.

[Sirrus_Asura]

So, you make a good point. If I want to drive my car, I better have a license or people with guns will manhandle me.

Just not sure how this relates to you saying that guns are not involved with law enforcement.

Its a cute example really. But I guess he doesn't understand why you take a drivers test for a license.

[Rhinox]

guartz. You do realize that your "free market" solution is already out there right? The only thing stopping someone from peru to practice medicine here is a simple exam. How exactly does that help?

[Beckwin]

I made a pretty decent recommendation to lower costs, best part, wouldn't cost anyone anything. Only make people money.

You recommended an outdated system which allowed for unqualified people to administer health care and doesn't account for the more complicated nature of contemporary health care, and makes nowhere close to a guarantee that everyone can get care when they need it.

now I wouldn't be against community clinics that had licensed professionals (nurses, technicians, pharmacist, and maybe some general practitioners doing some part-time) offering low-cost, low-level care outside of the insurance system (i.e. some place you could go for minor injuries/illnesses and medicine for it, for pretty cheap, without any major administrative overhead etc). But that really can't help the current problem where people cannot afford insurance and then go bankrupt when they have a major medical crisis, or where they can't get insurance again after losing/changing providers because of previous history.

[Sirrus_Asura]

guartz. You do realize that your "free market" solution is already out there right? The only thing stopping someone from peru to practice medicine here is a simple exam. How exactly does that help?

You really think its free market now?

[Rhinox]

So, you make a good point. If I want to drive my car, I better have a license or people with guns will manhandle me.

Just not sure how this relates to you saying that guns are not involved with law enforcement.

You missed my point. The point is no one is forcing the person to drive/practice medicine. but if you do you damn well better make sure you're license which has been the law long before Universal healthcare came to the forefront.

[Beckwin]

Don't even bother saying "The Free Market Way Wont Work", government already has regulation over the insurance. That's not free market.

So it's government regulation that causes insurance companies to lower their medical-loss ratio as low as possible to please investors?

Again, you see a problem. can you describe the problem and offer some sort of plausible solution?