How the Health Crisis was solved 80 years ago.

[kuronosan]

http://www.youtube.com/v/9aGQ2gvumwE&

[kuronosan]

I'll just leave this right here.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aGQ2gvumwE

Man, that's some dirty shit right there.

[Sirrus_Asura]

While this does show that government can be corrupt on a local level(Dur), once again, it effects that state primarily, and the smaller the problem, the easier it is to fix.

[Rhinox]

easier to fix? really?

George Ryan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and the very next governor after him.

Rod Blagojevich - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Sirrus_Asura]

easier to fix? really?

George Ryan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and the very next governor after him.

Rod Blagojevich - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yea, really. They're out of office if I read correctly.

[kuronosan]

Yea, really. They're out of office if I read correctly.

Only because they were actually caught and convicted after their crimes were made aware to the entire country.

[Rhinox]

Yea, really. They're out of office if I read correctly.

Point is, since you missed it, One corrupt governor made way for another one.

It's not as easy to fix as you claim it to be.

[Sirrus_Asura]

Only because they were actually caught and convicted after their crimes were made aware to the entire country.

How else do you remove a corrupt politician?

[kuronosan]

The keywords in that sentence were that the entire nation was made aware of their corruption.

Being corrupt and being caught are totally different.

[Sirrus_Asura]

Point is, since you missed it, One corrupt governor made way for another one.

It's not as easy to fix as you claim it to be.

And the Federal Government is better how?

[Sirrus_Asura]

The keywords in that sentence were that the entire nation was made aware of their corruption.

Being corrupt and being caught are totally different.

Being corrupt and having limited power over a small group of people(Relatively speaking) is different from being corrupt and having a lot of power over a large group of people.

[kuronosan]

I'm sorry, I seemed to have missed your point (or I'm just missing something completely).

What's your stance?

[Rhinox]

This is how this debate is gonna keep going.


I provide links and examples on how you're wrong. Then you will twist it and completely ignore the points being made to fit your twisted paranoia. rinse. repeat.

Frankly, I'm done.

[Jaybar]

Blago's corruption stemmed into the Federal government, too. Don't pretend this is a "local" thing. I'm pretty sure I don't have to explain this.

[Sirrus_Asura]

You're links have proven nothing. You've shown everyone shit we already know. Congrats


My point as clear as possible: If there are going to be corrupt politicians on a local level, there will be corrupt politicians on a federal level. Just because they haven't been caught doesn't mean they don't exist. You're foolish to think otherwise.

With this in mind~ I'm amazed at peoples faith that they will not botch health care and allow it to be overrun by special interests.(They do this with our laws already). (You haven't addressed this, you've only stated that this happens on a local level, Congrats)

Instead of these problems being small and spread out and manageable (You're videos show this, the problem was fixed), they're going to effect the *entire* country.



Goldman Sachs was president Obama's 2nd biggest campaign contributor. They also received a nice fat check from the bailout. Is this not a conflict of interest? Accountability what? Aside from maybe getting scolded by Sean Hannity(Like anyone gives a flying fuck). At least local fuckups get removed.

[Rhinox]

You know what. You have won me over. Lets not have any federal government at all. In fact, Lets all break into our own little countries since the Federal government is not capable of running anything right. I dont want no stinking Military, Medicare/aid, VFW benefits or taxes.... yeah man fuck taxes too. I can spend more money on porn or guns or better yet BOTH with the 1/3 of my income back.

Fuck don't even need no popo since I won't leave my house because of all the extra Granny porn I'd be getting. And if some nigga wants to come break in my house I'll be ready with my 12 gauge shotty.

[Sirrus_Asura]

You know what. You have won me over. Lets not have any federal government at all. In fact, Lets all break into our own little countries since the Federal government is not capable of running anything right. I dont want no stinking Military, Medicare/aid, VFW benefits or taxes.... yeah man fuck taxes too. I can spend more money on porn or guns or better yet BOTH with the 1/3 of my income back.

Fuck don't even need no popo since I won't leave my house because of all the extra Granny porn I'd be getting. And if some nigga wants to come break in my house I'll be ready with my 12 gauge shotty.

Cause I've totally advocated all of that.

If this is your response, you've lost hard.

[Rhinox]

No this is me not taking you seriously anymore. You're really nothing more then a paranoid assbackward conservative who really can't keep your core values from contradicting each other. You're the one that fails

Good day to you sir.

[Sirrus_Asura]

No this is me not taking you seriously anymore. You're really nothing more then a paranoid assbackward conservative who really can't keep your core values from contradicting each other. You're the one that fails

Good day to you sir.

Hahaha. You're adorable. You're right, Government can do no wrong.

[Rhinox]

I said good day.