Fragment NM's & Stunning Warp

[Baelorn]

Random question, has anyone tried fighting DL and treat it as a reg mob and not zerg it? Is he just too overwhelming? I've never seen what happens if you take him slow lol, I know oblivion smash rapes face kinda hard.

There's a vid of some JP LS doing it a long time ago on YouTube. They won but needless to say there was a lot of deaths and it took a long time(the person recording died+unweakened about 3 times).

[Arthars]

mijin does not stun warp

in the past, people have tried the mijin theory but have find out that a death can lead to a weapon getting "interested" in the fight and stop warping for 10 or so sec more extension

i myself tried before pulling a fragment NM solo for fun, and died of course, and the weapon went interested x2 and eventually warp only after 1 min

i dont have the SS now obviously but i did post it on BG at least 2-3 years ago

so regarding your mijin, its prolly the same theory: someone died, weapon interested and stayed for extra 10 sec

and yea, wasting 3 day to test this shit isnt recommended. people want AF in xarc than testing this shit

zerg it fast and hard

[Alathar]

I have to put a disclaimer on my memory possibly failing me hardcore, but years ago when I was still doing dynamis we heard of a couple of non-zerg tactics (we just zerged ourselves)

One approach was to this was supposedly kiting him around, taking advantage of mainly ranged damage.
(our thoughts about this approach was the obvious disadvantage of when someone pulls hate at a bad time and are inattentive, you snoose you lose)

Another was, as is suggested, having rangers and BLMs stand on a lower tier and have mainly tanks and close range DDs fight upper, with stunners.
The problem here is that:
1, his TP moves aren't superslow, and he likes to cheat (paralyzega => oblivion smash for example)
2, Oblivion Smash is just that
3, if you're doing it this way, you might as well just zerg it anyway
4, doesn't take much before rangers (or BLMs) pull hate and he starts running around, and it's all over.

Don't forget about Ying and Yang.

[Snprphnx]

Don't forget about Ying and Yang.

plus he can "split" into 5 DLs, and cause the loss of target lock and disengage. this alone can fuck up a kill if you have ppl that are slow to re-engage. Zerg is best solution. why chance a wipe and wasted time recovering to try a "normal" kill when you can just zerg it in 30 secs and keep on moving

[Leroy]

What if you don't really have the fire power to kill these things in a zerg method? We have all of 11 people for dynamis, our only zergers being 2 M.Kris DRKs.

[Mythe_Seraph]

What if you don't really have the fire power to kill these things in a zerg method? We have all of 11 people for dynamis, our only zergers being 2 M.Kris DRKs.

Well then, just giddy up on down to Seraph and I'll sell to you for a discount, sir!

[Diomer]

What if you don't really have the fire power to kill these things in a zerg method? We have all of 11 people for dynamis, our only zergers being 2 M.Kris DRKs.

I bet that would work fine if you 2 boxed a brd or 2 + thf to pull. By the way, how do smaller groups end up pulling the Scythe since it looks hard to get there; I was thinking of a sac pull involving the mobs in front of it.

[Leroy]

First off, I wouldn't ever pay for anything when I can just do it myself.

As or how would a small group pull the scythe, I'm guessing we'll just kill all the mobs and then pull it? It doesn't look too bad.

[Demosthenes11]

First off, I wouldn't ever pay for anything when I can just do it myself.

As or how would a small group pull the scythe, I'm guessing we'll just kill all the mobs and then pull it? It doesn't look too bad.

well it could potentially be impossible with that few people, so perhaps doing it for yourself is not an option

[Leroy]

I'll get it, it might take a few tries, but I will get it.

[Yugl]

I'll get it, it might take a few tries, but I will get it.

I know a Dynamis LS that tried this approach before half of their members got sick of it and left.

[Leroy]

My group is small and dedicated, and we take pride in doing things with less. Luckily my ls is a bunch of hotheads that won't stop until they win.

Reminds me of our first 10 man kirin, I even told them to wipe and call it a night and the fuckers sat there for 4 more hours until they killed it. That was just a kirin, this is the last hurdle for the relic we've all worked on for so long.

[Demosthenes11]

k bro np i trust u

[Leroy]

Anyway how much hp do the fragment nms have in total? Anyone got a rough estimate?

[Mythe_Seraph]

I'll even cut you a discount! C'mon!

[Thorny]

doubt aru can afford to buy it, he could only afford the currency because he's sole sponsored for 2 years+

i'd say 11man is theoretically possible, but would need 2-3 krakens :/

[Leroy]

It's true I've been the sole sponsor for over a year now, but to that's the only reason I can afford it is retarded. We sell Sky Abjs, B.Haidate, Homam, etc. I also solo farm Sky triggers, Sea triggers, ZNM, and KSNMs. Gonna be able to get that Armada berk soon >.>

And no I don't keep all the gil from ls sales, ls members get a split.