District 9

[Neosutra]

You're right, we wouldn't allow a private contractor to take their weaponry and murder them on live camera. We would have a coalition of the world's armies to take their weaponry and murder them on live camera.

Exactly .

[fishstix]

You're right, we wouldn't allow a private contractor to take their weaponry and murder them on live camera. We would have a coalition of the world's armies to take their weaponry and murder them on live camera.

I don't think we'd even need or want a coalition of the world's armies. If they were really as helpless as the movie portrayed, either the US, Russia, maybe China would be all over it. We'd probably be fighting with each other instead of together on who gets control.

If the movie did follow a more realistic/worldly approach, I would've enjoyed it more, would want to watch again. Instead, it was focused on JUST JHB as if the rest of the world didn't want to get involved.

I guess that's one of the point of the movie? how the world didn't want to get involved in the South African Apartheid? The only parts I did like were the science fiction aspects of it, fights with the weaponry, grav gun, mecha; but I could've done without the "humanity" aspect of it which is supposed to be based on reality.

[EternityEnd]

It's obvious what would happen in hypothetical, unpredictable, improbable situations, guys. I know because I know all and cannot admit that in situations which have never happened before, we cannot reasonably predict the outcome.

[Neosutra]

Yes, because we cant make expected predictions on reasonable behavior and capabilities based on previous evidence and knowledge because "it hasnt happened before". In fact, any movie that makes any logical/scientific fallacies isnt breaking realism because "hey, its a movie so its not real and we just dont know!".

If you throw out the laws of physics, our understanding of those laws, the governing systems of our planet, and our experience with just how much the superpowers get involved with other nation's affairs if it concerns them, then sure the movie makes perfect sense and has no plot holes!

[Qalbert]

EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP

[rezn0r]

haha, i was watching this thread from the start and was surprised an argument like this didn't happen 6 pages sooner. the same thing took place on four million other forums.

[Elites]

Edit: Best movie of the year

[Stilzkin]

Anyone else think the whole mockumentary thing with people being all "I never expected what happened to happen" lasted too long. The movie seemed messy on the whole half documentary half normal thing. I thought it messed up the pacing a bit. There should have been more character development for the main character and him and the prawn's relationship. Would have made the ending more emotional. The ending with him talking about his wife felt strange, it was like they were trying to build up how much he loved his wife, with him calling her throughout the movie, but it doesn't add to the movie as she barely appears or motivates him.

Didn't think it was anywhere as good as people made it out to be. Thought the base idea of the story could have been made in to a much better movie.

About the whole technology thing, I don't think it matters. You can call it a plot hole but in Sci-Fi movies writers are sort of allowed to play the crazy-over-advanced-technology card. It's like in action movies were the main character is allowed to live through impossible situations yet the bad guys die easily. Yea, in real life we could have understood the technology in less than twenty years but thats the thing about the crazy-over-advanced-technology.

[Dimmauk]

I saw this movie today, and I liked it. It wasn't realistic though, BECAUSE IT WAS A FUCKING MOVIE!

[Maguspk]

Saw this movie for the second time with some friends. They enjoyed it and analyzed it the same way I did. It's very realistic. Haven't checked this thread since I first posted in it but big surprise, Neosutra shitting up a thread. Guys need to just ignore him, he's like a troll that doesn't know he's trolling.

[Ziero]

The depiction of humanity was dead on because what MNU was doing to the aliens is exactly what the South African government was doing to blacks during apartheid. You don't watch Schindler's List and say, "THAT STUFF DOESN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE REAL PEOPLE AREN'T LIKE THAT! IT KILLED THE REALISM FOR ME!"

Well, you probably do.

...but finding out and making contact with extraterrestrial intelligent life forms would be one of the most monumental events in all of human existence, there is no way the earth would collectively treat such a discovery so callously. I mean, as cold as it sounds, treating people like garbage is a common part of human history...but meeting aliens for the first time, on such a large scale, would be a completely different event entirely. There is no way the governments of the world would ever allow a single, private military corporation to be in complete and sole control of everything and anything relating to these beings. I mean yes there's the whole "well the world ignored apartheid!" bit...but again, that was just humans treating humans like second class citizens, nothing new or exciting in that regards. Alien creatures with the ability to communicate with man would be a whole 'nother story.

Neo, we let the same atrocities occur to our own fucking species, daily. What makes you think we wouldn't subject weird, ugly aliens to the same horror?

The very fact that is it an entirely different species would warrant the entire world being involved, not a single, private military firm controlling everything. As suggested before, it would be far more realistic (zomg I said realistic about a movie, the horror!) if nations of the world were vying to get a piece of that technology.

I mean yea, it was a good movie, I wouldn't say the greatest I've ever seen. I kinda left the theater...underwhelmed.

[Priran]

itt: applying human logic to an alien species

[Ziero]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't one of the most outstanding undertones of this film the fact that the "alien species" wasn't all that alien when it came right down to it. I mean, that was the whole point of showing how Christopher cared for his people, and his child especially, so much. And how these "aliens" had so much emotion in their eyes. These weren't beings who's behavior made no sense to us, these beings were being used to mimic and mirror (and this is the fun part) actual human behavior when afflicted with similar living conditions. They acted "less then human" because they were treated less then human.

[Qalbert]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't one of the most outstanding undertones of this film the fact that the "alien species" wasn't all that alien when it came right down to it. I mean, that was the whole point of showing how Christopher cared for his people, and his child especially, so much. And how these "aliens" had so much emotion in their eyes. These weren't beings who's behavior made no sense to us, these beings were being used to mimic and mirror (and this is the fun part) actual human behavior when afflicted with similar living conditions. They acted "less then human" because they were treated less then human.

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[Dimmauk]

...but finding out and making contact with extraterrestrial intelligent life forms would be one of the most monumental events in all of human existence, there is no way the earth would collectively treat such a discovery so callously. I mean, as cold as it sounds, treating people like garbage is a common part of human history...but meeting aliens for the first time, on such a large scale, would be a completely different event entirely. There is no way the governments of the world would ever allow a single, private military corporation to be in complete and sole control of everything and anything relating to these beings. I mean yes there's the whole "well the world ignored apartheid!" bit...but again, that was just humans treating humans like second class citizens, nothing new or exciting in that regards. Alien creatures with the ability to communicate with man would be a whole 'nother story.



The very fact that is it an entirely different species would warrant the entire world being involved, not a single, private military firm controlling everything. As suggested before, it would be far more realistic (zomg I said realistic about a movie, the horror!) if nations of the world were vying to get a piece of that technology.

I mean yea, it was a good movie, I wouldn't say the greatest I've ever seen. I kinda left the theater...underwhelmed.

I'm sure when it happends 20 years ago, it was monumental. Look at what was monumental 20 years ago, and how its looked at today.

[Kerberoz]

Saw it, thought it was pretty damn good overall.

I can forgive the tech/physics issues, since alien films lampshade that in the first place. The one disbelief I couldn't suspend was the fact that sentient aliens came to earth and the world powers let South Africa keep them without any struggle... huh? It doesn't break the movie, or anything, but come on.

[Ziero]

So people just...forgot...about the giant hovering alien space craft filled with technology far more advanced then anything we've seen on our planet?

South Africa would have been ripped apart by the world's nations if something like this occurred. The only reason people "ignored" apartheid is because nothing down there offered anything of "worth" to the global powers. The second this floating weapon-of-the-future came into it's airspace the world's nations would have gutted the ship and anyone who stood in their way.

The point is, there are many plot holes in this film that don't really mesh well with the whole concept. But instead of listing em out and complaining about them...more then I've done already anyway...I'll just say it was a good movie despite some glaring flaws. But it certainly wasn't the best movie I've seen, nor is it one of my favorites.

[Neosutra]

Exactly, even with the problems I listed, I still said I liked it. However, the problems kept it from becoming one of my favorites (and I like this type of movie a lot, so it had a good chance to begin with). I left the theatre going "ya that was a decent movie" and not "holy shit that was the best movie this year!" like I keep hearing from people.

[Meresgi]

My god @ this overanalyzation. Its always funny to me, that, as a work of complete fiction, people relate it to the real world. The Earth in District 9 is not the Earth we live on, it is a fictional place. The earth in the Time Traveler's Wife is a fictional earth. The earth in Transformers is a fictional earth.

They are fictional HAPPENINGS, not a fictional earth. Those two are not the same. All fictional movies that take place on earth do take place on the Planet Earth that we live on right now, unless otherwise stated. It's like reading any book and when plot holes come about saying "Oh well, this is Earth ID#20031 not MY Earth so that makes sense". They still have to operate under our own laws. Neo is right about the plot holes he saw, but that doesn't make it a bad movie. It's called criticism 9_9.

[EternityEnd]

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Idiots didn't pay attention, no wonder you didn't like certain parts.