King's Justice vs Raging Rush

[kamugi]

Ok, so here's my question.
Why do all the math calculations in this thread differ so much from my parsed average damage with kings justice on greater colibri? My gear isnt that spectactular, and the 1 parse I still have shows my average at 1027.04, and it was always around this number when I would parse, lowest I ever saw was like 950.

WS gear at the time cnsited of;
perdu GA, pole grip, bomblet
heca cap, thunder gorget, assault earring, brutal earring
haub+1, pallas, toreaders, rajas
foragers, potent belt, af2 legs, heca feet

merits;
3 or 4 str, 4 GA, 4 double attack, 3 bergressor, 1 war charge, 4 crit+

now if I can use that crap and always be at 1k, a well geared person should be up to 1200 average easy right? even more with food? (I dont use food at colibris ever btw! so dont ask if I did, buffs were minuet4, march, chaos roll(no drk or af2 hat), cor roll)

-someone tell me how to post a parse on here and I will do it, I'm an artist not a computer savy person or a super awesome math person. I just think you have to be doing something wrong cause my gear sucks and I do more then you say you should do with good gear.

also; race is mithra, and should I use haub+1 or heca body for KJ?

[Yugl]

Ok, so here's my question.
Why do all the math calculations in this thread differ so much from my parsed average damage with kings justice on greater colibri? My gear isnt that spectactular, and the 1 parse I still have shows my average at 1027.04, and it was always around this number when I would parse, lowest I ever saw was like 950.

WS gear at the time cnsited of;
perdu GA, pole grip, bomblet
heca cap, thunder gorget, assault earring, brutal earring
haub+1, pallas, toreaders, rajas
foragers, potent belt, af2 legs, heca feet

merits;
3 or 4 str, 4 GA, 4 double attack, 3 bergressor, 1 war charge, 4 crit+

now if I can use that crap and always be at 1k, a well geared person should be up to 1200 average easy right? even more with food? (I dont use food at colibris ever btw! so dont ask if I did, buffs were minuet4, march, chaos roll(no drk or af2 hat), cor roll)

-someone tell me how to post a parse on here and I will do it, I'm an artist not a computer savy person or a super awesome math person. I just think you have to be doing something wrong cause my gear sucks and I do more then you say you should do with good gear.

also; race is mithra, and should I use haub+1 or heca body for KJ?

A lot of the math here (Forthesakeofego) assumes no buffs when comparing KJ and RR. Thus, you're likely to see higher returns than what's posted in a situation where you have access to Minuet + Chaos.

[Starr]

Ok, so here's my question.
Why do all the math calculations in this thread differ so much from my parsed average damage with kings justice on greater colibri? My gear isnt that spectactular, and the 1 parse I still have shows my average at 1027.04, and it was always around this number when I would parse, lowest I ever saw was like 950.

WS gear at the time cnsited of;
perdu GA, pole grip, bomblet
heca cap, thunder gorget, assault earring, brutal earring
haub+1, pallas, toreaders, rajas
foragers, potent belt, af2 legs, heca feet

merits;
3 or 4 str, 4 GA, 4 double attack, 3 bergressor, 1 war charge, 4 crit+

now if I can use that crap and always be at 1k, a well geared person should be up to 1200 average easy right? even more with food? (I dont use food at colibris ever btw! so dont ask if I did, buffs were minuet4, march, chaos roll(no drk or af2 hat), cor roll)

-someone tell me how to post a parse on here and I will do it, I'm an artist not a computer savy person or a super awesome math person. I just think you have to be doing something wrong cause my gear sucks and I do more then you say you should do with good gear.

also; race is mithra, and should I use haub+1 or heca body for KJ?

Nah really, stuff like Ebody over Haub+1 and Ares over Warrior's Cuisses don't add 200 damage, everything is minimal increases in FFXI.

[Masamune]

@ Kamugi,

the maths i posted above were on Gcolis meripo PT BRDX2, with some special "requirements" to fuck as less as possible the average parsed.

My post also shows which windows of KParser to post, so we can see which conditions influenced yur averages. You got a good start listing yur gears and merits but thats not enough.

Edit: just plugged the stats yu submitted on my calculations and got these results :

WS avg on Gcolis lvl81 = 1125.89
-------------------82 = 1108.41
Keep in mind those results i got have been calculated in optimal conditions without ANY fuckups like Dia, 0 downtime between mobs, 0 WS fucked when mob 10%HP, etc...

[RobertLangdon]

There is no way King's Justice can beat Raging Rush if you dont suck at gearing.
Building dex for RR is retarded.
Raging rush is all STR + DA matter, once you have a 12/15% overall crit RR will always outperform KJ.
I have around 13% Critical hits, my gear is based on full STR + DA during WS, and based on what you guys say here KJ should win then.
Never won once, parsed trilions of times full STR + DA gearset Raging Rush parsing an average of 1380/1430 Weaponskill Damage.
If you suck so much that you swap your warrior gear with some rotten piece like zahak mail, like thunder rings and other stupid stuff like this, of course your WS will suck.

Zerg time KJ ? this is another stupid common assumption.
300% TP you dont use KJ, you use WC + Steel Cyclone, KJ Sucks.
Oh and remember to build a VIT build for steel cyclone, Genbu Kabuto Go.lol.

Warrior is all about Double Attack, Strenght, Attack.
If you think you need to have a DEX build for WS, just change job.
If your KJ outperform your RR means your RR gearset is so much screwed that you miss hits and do few damage.

Anyway i will post you tons of screenhsots so you will see.

[Tubbers]

That is an A++++ trolling job. I doubt many people will get the name reference at all, lol. Brilliant.

[Starr]

1 post, troll account? Gotta be.

[RobertLangdon]

Oh so you two never had 1 post ?
You created your account and it had already 34000 posts ?
i just registered 5 days ago, and no i'm not troll.
I'll show you when i'll gather all the screenshots.

[Starr]

Parses rather than screenshots please.

[RobertLangdon]

I have to get 10 posts before post a link lol...

[Tubbers]

use spaces "www . website . com"

[RobertLangdon]

I need some times to find the parsers of kj rr but since you guys seem impatient i will post parser war/sam and sam/war both relics amano bravura, both hume. brdx2 cor rdm, you might get an idea. Puks mamool camp.

meaningwhile this is gear:
Carbonara for 6hit build

main "Bravura"
head "Hecatomb cap"
back "Cerberus mantle +1"
feet "Hct. leggings"
neck "Kubira beads"
body "Adaman hauberk"
waist "Warrior's stone"
ear2 "Triumph earring"
ear1 "Brutal earring"
ring2 "omicron ring"
ring1 "rajas ring"
hands "Hct. mittens"
ammo "Fire bomblet"
legs "Ares's flanchard"


link 1: img229. imageshack. us/img229/1088/86030527.jpg
link 2: img219. imageshack. us/img219/2820/extrah.jpg

[Starr]

That parse is crazy, it is BRD BRD COR RDM WAR SAM with Dia on, definately Fighter's roll and maybe even Chaos Roll to average like that. Why does the parser say Triple Attack Rate 14% btw? I keep seeing this on parses of non TA jobs.

[Deimos]

Why does the parser say Triple Attack Rate 14% btw? I keep seeing this on parses of non TA jobs.

Having high Haste screws it up, you attack too fast for it to separate the "rounds". The Extra Attacks tab is pretty worthless for getting anything meaningful out of.

[Starr]

yeah it said 60-something DA rate too, makes sense.

[Starr]

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b..._1987/RRKJ.jpg

March, Minuet4, Chaos Roll, Corsair's Roll

I have no idea why both are so low average for me but that doesn't matter, to be completely honest and fair with the parse though there were 2 RR that I would omit (the 562 and the 754 damage ones) because I used them at real low mob HP making them do shit tons less damage where I never once did that with KJ which means RR would have averaged higher.

[Fridell]

Darkstarr? Bad new name you choose

[Starr]

Meh, I make everyone call me Starr still but I get called shit like "Dark" or "DS" sometimes...

[Starr]

oh yeah I used Claymore for RR and Pole Grip for KJ, RR is Byakko's Haidate and Warwolf Belt and KJ is Warrior's Stone and Warrior's Cuisses

[BerenTebogo]

I need some times to find the parsers of kj rr but since you guys seem impatient i will post parser war/sam and sam/war both relics amano bravura, both hume. brdx2 cor rdm, you might get an idea. Puks mamool camp.

meaningwhile this is gear:
Carbonara for 6hit build

main "Bravura"
head "Hecatomb cap"
back "Cerberus mantle +1"
feet "Hct. leggings"
neck "Kubira beads"
body "Adaman hauberk"
waist "Warrior's stone"
ear2 "Triumph earring"
ear1 "Brutal earring"
ring2 "omicron ring"
ring1 "rajas ring"
hands "Hct. mittens"
ammo "Fire bomblet"
legs "Ares's flanchard"


link 1: img229. imageshack. us/img229/1088/86030527.jpg
link 2: img219. imageshack. us/img219/2820/extrah.jpg

Why Kubira instead of Gorget :Q or at least Why kubira instead of Ancient Torque :Q