King's Justice vs Raging Rush

[Ferien]

without any attack buffs?

Ah misread. No, either 2x Minuet or DRK roll.

[Starr]

Come to think about it you can reach dDEX +50 on most mobs:
FFXIGEAR.com

For higher AGI stuff change Flame>Thunder and Hachiryu Haramaki>Zahak's Mail

[Yugl]

Come to think about it you can reach dDEX +50 on most mobs:
FFXIGEAR.com

For higher AGI stuff change Flame>Thunder and Hachiryu Haramaki>Zahak's Mail

Going to need 126 DEX for BLU mamools and 132 for DRG mamools. I wouldn't even bother including Haramaki considering how rare it is. Even if this is a "With the best gear" thread, the conclusions are meaningless if you're going to use gear that a fraction of the EG population has access to.

Sadly, race seems to be a big factor in this discussion. Taru can barely reach the crit cap on DRG mamools using Zahaks+Thunder Ring combo. Change that to Elvaan, and you're running out of upgradable pieces (Looking at Heca+1 territory).

[richardd]

well that would explain why my KJ's were not only more consistent, but almost always higher. but its cool to see how strong RR could be. if i was still playing, i would try to gear more for it ; i was always spoiled with at least 1 cor with a brd or 2 brds wherever i went.

[Starr]

Yeah I was just theorizing the best RR gear, not saying RR is better cus everyone has a Hachiryu Haramaki.

[Max™]

*glad he has both, so he can use them, and even steel when appropriate*

[Yugl]

*glad he has both, so he can use them, and even steel when appropriate*

I don't know about you, but it seems RR is the only gear set WARs are allowed to have since apparently it's best for "Most" mobs. If you don't get what I mean, check the top post (Unless he edits it).

Edit: Thanks for turning this into a "FIGHT ME NOW IF YOU DISAGREE" thread Starr. Can't say I'm surprised though (Note: This was made after the following post).

[Starr]

I don't know but Yugl seems to be a whiny little faggot with nothing constructive to say.

Get off my dick? You are posting but all I see is; "blah blah I don't have a fucking clue what I'm talking about". People like you should NOT have left KI.

[Fridell]

I know for sure Starr averaged around 1030-1050 on RR (it was around here somewhere I can't remember exactly) on Birds when we experimented with GA and Polearms some weeks back. The sad part is I lost all parse exports I did from July because I've been changing and reinstalling my computer, but shouldn't be too hard yo get new data.

[Max™]

KJ thrives on attack, Zerk up? I'm likely to pop a KJ.
RR actually gets worse technically if you crit a lot and "waste" attack, zerk down? I'm probably going to RR.

I have to make judgment calls from monster to monster due to experience, like Dyna Valkurm, I unfiltered damages for a while and was shocked to see lots of 300~400 RR's from the other Wars, while KJ was sitting in the 650~900 Dmg range.

Rampager DRAMATICALLY pumps RR up, but it's a blank slot for KJ, so I am glad I have my Kheten to play with now, great for both.

I would say that RR has +0% Crit rate at 100% TP, and +20% at 300% TP.

[Starr]

RR actually gets worse technically if you crit a lot and "waste" attack, zerk down?

no, no, no you don't have a clue.

[Max™]

I don't?

Please, enlighten me, kiddo.


I didn't say it got absolutely worse, only in a sense.


Since pDif caps at 2.4 or some shit for 2hed melee, Crits cap at 3.15, if you have over 2.15 pDif consistently, you're "losing" some of the possible benefit of the extra attack with each crit.

Whereas KJ gets full benefit from every bit of attack you have, and multiplying it's tasty WS mods by higher attack produces a larger number than you would get from RR due to that "wasted" potential.

If Crits capped at 3.4, then I wouldn't have said that, are you sure I don't have a clue?

[Starr]

I'm sure, how much attack do you think you need to have 2.15 pDIF?

[shaddix]

i thought it was 2.7ish for 2handers

[Starr]

fuuuuu idk, that was in between the 2 hand uber to 2 hand fairer patch maybe? I really have no idea what things are now

[Mojo]

Crits are also more significant with a lower pDIF, so it's a double whammy.

[Sifer]

using this set: - FFXIAH.com for BOTH weaponskills (keep in mind, this favors KJ).

here are my best 2 parses (used both WSs a decent number of times). will probably post the rest of them later.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9800/p19y.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6905/p28a.jpg


This is without gearing for critical hits.

[Starr]

which mobs and outside buffs?

[Sifer]

Greater colibri. 1st is chaos/fighters and 2nd is march/min.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Greater colibri. 1st is chaos/fighters and 2nd is march/min.

Whyyyyyyyy