The Koran -- Serious business.

[Neosutra]

and nobody said anything about abstinence only education

And guess what else? It's completely feasible to live life without having to have sex when you're unprepared

What would telling people to just "do without sex" until they are married or ready to have kids be called other than abstinence?

Do you even know what abstinence means?

[Plow]

Do you know what only means?

[archibaldcrane]

"Don't have sex until you're ready for a child" is very similar to abstinence-only education.

[Plow]

All of these things are options-- if you choose some of them, there may be consequences and you need to be prepared to take responsibility for your actions.


Such a terrible thing to be teaching children.

[archibaldcrane]

All of these things are options-- if you choose some of them, there may be consequences and you need to be prepared to take responsibility for your actions.

Or you could just get an abortion.

[Plow]

Or neo can cut off his balls and get back to afk bangin hot chix without having to kill people.

[Neosutra]

Or neo can cut off his balls and get back to afk bangin hot chix without having to kill people.

I cant, your GF loves facial's too much =/

[Cow_k]

Oh, so you believe we need to save the unused embryos throughout a woman's life as well? You are tossing away what could have been that unique person every time you dont fertilize an egg!

Nothing like bringing in false arguments comparing something to something that isn't equal at all in any way. Keep trying to set those traps though. An egg passed through menstretuion has no potential for life as there was no sperm to fertilize it. Until that point, it's worthless. The SECOND it starts to develop, there's potential life. Before that there is none. Should we save them all? That has no place in this argument.

And yes, I'll stand by my original statement. But that's just my opinion. I have never forced it on anyone and I never will. More than I can say for you. I've given you enough reason for it. If you don't want to listen and accept that it's my opinion. Fine. Say whatever you want, that won't change. If people want to believe the same as me? Fine. You however think everyone is less of a person if they don't agree with you though. That makes you trash.

Yep, keep pushing abstinence only education, it has worked wonders (probably the highest contributor to abortion rates in america to date).

Again, has nothing to do with anything. Keep stretching. I'm all for sex education, however to not accept that having sex can lead to pregnancy is wrong. Nothing like standing up and telling all the kids: Don't worry! Have all the sex you want! You can always have an abortion that might leave you mentally scarred, destroy the father, destroy a potential life already in progress and possibly leave you barren if someone makes a mistake!

Yep, I would definitely argue that those missing out on the action are missing a large part of one of life's greatest aspects.

Again you miss the point. Whether they're missing out on a part of life or not doesn't mean shit. It has nothing to do with a person preparing themselves before having sex. However, it's 100% completely feasible to live awhile without having sex. Some would say you're missing out on life if you're not doing meth, or murdering a fellow human being.

Again, you're an idiot. You keep stating whatever attack bullshit you want and I'll keep doing it. I don't feel the need to rise above you even though it's pretty easy to rise above someone buried 10 feet into the ground.

[Neosutra]

Nothing like bringing in false arguments comparing something to something that isn't equal at all in any way. Keep trying to set those traps though. An egg passed through menstretuion has no potential for life as there was no sperm to fertilize it. Until that point, it's worthless. The SECOND it starts to develop, there's potential life. Before that there is none. Should we save them all? That has no place in this argument.
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Ill agree to disagree with the rest of what you said, but do you really not see the contradiction here?

How is an embryo only potential life if fertilized? People can save their eggs/sperm and use them later, it happens all the time (In sperm banks hopefully, not in your fridge >.>). How is the instant a sperm touches the egg inside the woman somehow magically more "potential" than if that woman had those eggs extracted and saved and impregnated in a lab later?

It isnt potential life Cow, it is potential pregnancy, which you can chose to continue with or not. We will never agree on that term, but surely you can see that any fertilized egg is no different than a non fertilized egg as far as "potential waste of life goes".

[Plow]

any fertilized egg is no different than a non fertilized egg

Your logic never ceases to amaze neo.

[Cow_k]

I'm sorry, but alone, an egg has no potential for life. Alone, a sperm has no potential for life. Only when together does that potential begin. The point is what happens after they've already been joined, not what happens before that potential begins.

[Neosutra]

I'm sorry, but alone, an egg has no potential for life. Alone, a sperm has no potential for life. Only when together does that potential begin. The point is what happens after they've already been joined, not what happens before that potential begins.

And if a woman saves her eggs for a later time in life, is she not saving potential life for later?

[Plow]

I heard something has to happen for sperm to fertilize an egg, confirm/deny?


I mean, I was under the impression it happened when you went swimming in the same pool as girls.

[Cow_k]

And if a woman saves her eggs for a later time in life, is she not saving potential life for later?

No, she's saving an egg. There's no potential life without the matching part.

[archibaldcrane]

What is this potential for life shit?

A fertilized egg is life. It just shouldn't be treated with the same legal respect as other human life.

[Plow]

sorry arch, you just made the remotest concession, that puts you somewhere remotely near middle ground, you're now a terrible evil right wing nutcase that's destroying America by promoting your anti-woman Palin loving agenda

[Cow_k]

We should call up Rush Limbaugh. He'd obviously want to promote someone so in tune with conservative ideals.

[Kerberoz]

Why don't all 3 of you just have sex with each other? Dudes can't get pregnant.

[greenhills]

have none of you guys ever heard of pulling out? it worked for me and my boyfriend for years untill we were ready. maybe they should start teaching that in the schools, along with the current use a condom lecture.
and the unfertilized egg is not useless, you can sell it for around 10,ooo$ if you can find a buyer.

[ZarakiKujata]

Maybe they should start teaching that in the schools, along with the current use a condom lecture. and the unfertilized egg is not useless, you can sell it for around 10,ooo$ if you can find a buyer.

Maybe they shouldn't since its not entirely foolproof birth control the way a rubber is. And if these kids can barely do math or read I wouldnt put it past them to manage to get pregnant.