Computer Monitor Request

[guartz]

Hannspree made an awesome 28',

built in tuner, full 1080p, 1920 by 2000, 3ms response

x2 hdmi ports, built in tuner.

$350 from tiger

[Amastacia]

Samsung monitors really aren't that special.

The BenQ listed above is a hell of a good monitor for the price. If I was in the market for an el-crapo TN panel, it's probably the only one I'd be looking at. It or its sibling models. The V/G/E 2400s are all pretty damn nice.

[Electro]

Just so you know 80% of Acer/Gateway Monitors (both owned by the same Company) use Samsung panels.

[Boyiee]

The Asus VW266H Is pretty damn sweet.

25.5 inches, 1920x1200 with 1:1 for 16:9 viewing say for your Ps3, and it has 1-2 HDMI and built in speakers. About 300 after rebates from newegg. Check it out imo. It's BIG.

[Weltall]

That BenQ isn't adjustable/pivotable and its a TN monitor...kind of shitty, actually...real shitty.

[Tythera]

TN panels are really shitty in general.

[Weltall]

Samsung monitors really aren't that special.

The BenQ listed above is a hell of a good monitor for the price. If I was in the market for an el-crapo TN panel, it's probably the only one I'd be looking at. It or its sibling models. The V/G/E 2400s are all pretty damn nice.

What monitor would you recommend other than the BenQ then?

[Weltall]

TN panels are really shitty in general.

And name some you recommend please ?

[Weltall]

According to this review:

Samsung 2333 SW 23" LCD Review

The monitor doesn't have HDMI though.. I am confused now too

There is a 2333HD and 2333 non-HD. That is why you are seeing one without the HDMI ports.

[Tythera]

I use a HP2475w. Highly highly recommended. They've had some QC problems in the past but I got a perfect one right out of the box.

Edit: http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/revie...p-lp2475w.html

[Weltall]

The reviews are scary though ;x

[Amastacia]

What monitor would you recommend other than the BenQ then?

Foreword:
I don't look at a lot seriously below 24" because I don't see the point, tbh. Price to size ratio is pretty steady/reasonable up to that point, only goes wonky when you go bigger.

I despise TN panels myself, but most people will not be bothered enough by the quality to pay the premium on a better panel. For those folks, I recommend the BenQs (E2400, V2400, G2400), because they are cheap, about as good as TNs get, and well-made.

I personally wouldn't buy any monitor with a VA panel because I am bothered by excessive input lag, but I will readily admit that most people, especially more casual gamers and non-gamers, will never notice.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY: RESPONSE TIME DOESN'T MEAN SHIT. It's a great marketing number for the manufacturers, but in practice that 2ms (which you will only see advertised in TN panels) isn't really a good gauge of anything important. Response time will vary based on what color the pixel is transitioning to/from, and can be affected by various flavors of "overdrive" technology.



Ok, that crap out of the way...

The Dell 2209WA looks to be a spectacularly good panel, but has no HDMI support. That's not outrageously problematic since HDMI and single-link DVI are pin compatible (just need a passive converter), but might be a deal-breaker for you. Also, no built-in speakers.

The build-quality issues I've read in regards to Samsung LCD monitors (not to be confused with their LCD TVs, two totally different beasts) have not been encouraging. They also tend to be very middle-of-the-road compared to some of their competitors. I understand your brand loyalty, but their monitors tend to be as average as their TVs are spectacular.

At this point, worthwhile non-TN panels in the 24"-and-under space are slowly dwindling in number because they can't compete on price.

For 24" the Dell WFP2408 is quite good (though somewhat prone to input lag thanks to VA panel). The previously-mentioned HP 2475W is about the best bang-for-your-buck IPS panel around. The BenQ FP241W has been largely phased out but was also good, if laggy.

I have a 26" Planar that I love, but it's very bare on features and inputs (I got it because of the stellar panel in conjunction with the absence of lag-inducing post-processing), and somewhat costly.

I'm sure you'll be happy with whatever Samsung you do end up buying, but you'd have been about as well-off buying a top-end TN panel. The viewing angles suck, but they'll more readily meet your other needs like inputs/features, speakers, and "speed".

If you can afford to wait a month or two, Dell is going to be rolling out a new line-up (it updates every year in early fall), and they tend to produce a good variety of IPS and VA panels that are well-regarded. lolDell and all that, but kind of like Samsung and their TVs, Dell PCs and monitors are not two of the same.

Some areas for research you might be interested in:
Displays - [H]ard|Forum
AnandTech - STICKY: The LCD Thread
PRAD | Index Welcome Page (note, Prad is a German site, not all the products reviewed there are available in the US)

Edit: The Samsung 2233SW you linked above is also TN, I believe, so I'm not sure you care as much about that as another comment seems to indicate.

[Weltall]

I will settle for 5MS, 2 HDMI ports, 1 DVI port, 24-25 inch screen, 1920 x 1080.

I don't care as much if its TN or not now because really I will only use it while sitting at the computer desk. I would just like it to be adjustable somewhat (at least move left and right, unlike that BenQ listed)

[Aevis]

That BenQ isn't adjustable/pivotable and its a TN monitor...kind of shitty, actually...real shitty.

that benq is about as good as TN panel can get. read the review i posted or any available on the net. if you don't want a TN panel, say so although you say different on your last post. now you say it seems like it all depends on if it's adjustable or not. you should make up your mind and say what you really care about, or you will just get "shitty" suggestions.

[Weltall]

2-5MS
2 HDMI ports
1 DVI port
Component is a +
Sound is a +
Can at least turn left/right (swivel)
TN is fine

@Aevis - Cool signature pic

[Elites]

Newegg.com - ASUS VW246H Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 20000:1) Built in Speakers - LCD Monitors
I got this monitor last week and it's beautiful, also fulfills all your req's. I have the built in cam model which is more expensive now but was the same price as the one without last week. The Hanns-G 28 inch mentioned earlier i'd stay away from, i've seen it close hand and it has some bad contrast / back lighting issues when it was next to a samsung panel, the colors were just more washed out.

[Weltall]

That ASUS looks like its pretty much dead on. Now to decide between the ASUS and the Samsung 2333HD...

[Weltall]

The one with built-in cam is only $6 more on Amazon. Looks like I will go with the same one you have.


Thanks!

(Hey, I'm motherboard loyal to ASUS, so I'm not technically cheating

[Amastacia]

The ASUS is the better buy, hands down.

I was motherboard loyal to ASUS until other companies, like Gigabyte, started offering more features at lower price points without serious reliability issues.

Then again, I've come to dislike brand loyalty. I say buy whatever product best fits your needs at a given price point that falls in your budget, regardless of who makes it.

[Weltall]

I think its more of, "hey none of there items have fudged up for me yet, so I won't roll the dice".

I ended up going with the ASUS and it should be here tomorrow. $4 one-day shipping!