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  1. #481
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seph View Post
    The reason why some mmorpg use such system to avoid confusion for new players, when we started FF11 we had like 12 job to chose from wth advanced jobs, but now it's easier you get to chose being a melee or mage only
    I agree with everything you said except the above. I don't think it really makes a difference how you get to the job, players will have an idea of what job they want to be and look up how to get to it. Like when I started XI I chose THF because I wanted to be a RNG, I thought RNG/THF was going to be the shit (Probably put into my head by the wonderful brady games guide). There wasn't anything confusing about getting RNG I just had to look it up and get it. I imagine the new system will be similar but you'll have to go out questing for a new weapon instead of the job itself.

    If anything it might get a little more confusing at first for jobs like DRK or if they made a Fencer (which in tactics was kind of like a melee-based RDM). Which would you want to go into Melee or Mage?

    I don't think this decision was made to make easy things easier.

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    The problem in FF11 that many people chose jobs that nobody wants endgame and it toke forever for the average player to reach level 75 and get the right gear

    Anyone remember loldrk loldrg etc.
    In FFXIV it can be as simple as switching your weapon while in FF11 you had to restart all over and level a new job to level 75 which many people did not do and quit

    Maybe that's why they wanna stick to Fighter/Mage idea after all all what I'm saying is a theory god knows what they plan to do but if they aim to fix all FF11 problems they got to give the players the option to be useful in case that they picked a job that nobody wants "easier to switch job instead of leveling new job for months just to get into events"

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    Falafels DO look a little weird, but they're still the best looking midget race I've seen in any MMO.

  4. #484
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    That issue in FFXI was caused by too many jobs without proper balancing. Now every job has its niche in endgame, and all you hear people say is "lolpup" which isn't true anymore either.

    However, LSs will still pick people based on classes, what their LS needs lol. Interesting to see how the decide between people in XIV, I guess based on your gear? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilhart View Post
    Falafels DO look a little weird, but they're still the best looking midget race I've seen in any MMO.
    Just did a thorough examination of your sig for the first time and had some lulz.

    I really don't have a problem with how the tralala's look. They're a little taller so I think they'll look better with armor on/have more detailed armor.

  6. #486
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    Yeah, in the beginning no one wanted any other damage classes besides RNGs and BLMs for end game. No one knew the true potential of WARs and SAMs while DRK and DRG were just really weak period. Being a DRG in 03-04 sucked. Not doing that shit again. lol

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    SAMs didn't have any real potential back then lol, at least not compared to now. WARs did but it was easier to just BLM burn things.

    Imagine PLDs though, they had such a hard time leveling and at 75 people only wanted NINs. Hell my old shell used WAR/WHM for wyrms over PLD XD

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    SAMs had potential, it was called /THF just very little people actually used it/had the sub leveled.

    Really? I felt like it was the other way around. NINs didn't really get a chance to show how well they can tank until Wyrms came into play. PLD/WARs, as laughable as it sounds, were preferred for most of the HNMs.

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    I guess it depends what shell/server you were on. PLDs on my old server were (and still are kinda) laughed at, lol. NINs ran the show from day one and a lot of shells still use them.

    And, SAM/THF is great and all but compared to a BLM back then it was meh WAR worked because they could /NIN, and dual wielding was leagues ahead of anything else up til like 2007 lol

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    I suppose so. ;o

    People seem to forget that skillchains and magic bursts were a big part of the game. 2 SAM/THFs provided the SCs while the BLM army burned shit. Meleeburns/Manaburns broke the game. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seph View Post
    And my windows vista take 1500MB before i open any game or application
    Console =/= PC we have seen games that run fine on xbox with 512MB ram while a pc with 2GB of ram can not run it on vista and require 2.5GB to run properly
    What's your point? I'm saying that he's wrong in assuming all of the PS3's RAM is available for use by a game when in fact almost a fifth is tied up by the XMB.

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    Indeed, doing skillchains/MBs were fun. But meleeburning is fun too getting to just straight up go all out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deft View Post
    Just did a thorough examination of your sig for the first time and had some lulz.
    I feel like it's too subtle for most people to even notice. <_< Should have made it brighter or something.

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    No more FFXI venting! How about some more FFXIV Speculation!

    - I wonder if Ivalice has any part of this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deft View Post
    I really don't have a problem with how the tralala's look.
    I lol'd... Oh, you touch my tralala!

    Quote Originally Posted by eunhye View Post
    No more FFXI venting! How about some more FFXIV Speculation!

    - I wonder if Ivalice has any part of this game.
    Nope

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilhart View Post
    I feel like it's too subtle for most people to even notice. <_< Should have made it brighter or something.
    More of a treat for those that do notice it O:

    Also people can just check the picture name, lol

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    Fair enough. <_<

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunhye View Post
    No more FFXI venting! How about some more FFXIV Speculation!

    - I wonder if Ivalice has any part of this game.


    If you look closely I t hink Glenn Close is a selectable race

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    Not this again, please ;_;

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    Just manthighs Thiefami, nothing special.

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