FFXIV Hardware Requirements

[Rasengan]

The Samsung Spinpoint F3 is one of the best 7200RPM drives out for the market. Of course, if you want to spend more on SSDs or VelociRaptors, but from a cost perspective, it's a good bang for the buck. I'd recommend the Momentus XT (if you don't mind spending double to amount for a F3) to get a good /GB price for near SSD load times...

mintyice, that setup is very similar to mine. I have:

X4 955 BE
GA-890GPA-UD3H
Sapphire 5830
Mushkin 4GB 1600 CL7
Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB
SeaSonic S12II 600w
CM 692
Scythe Yasya

All for $760 ($720 after MIR... lol, what a joke)

I was able to get it to run at 16.5x240 for 3.96ghz, but I had to set vcore to 1.425 to get 24hr prime95/12hr OCCT/6hr LinX stable. This, however leaves me at 58C at full load. Phenom IIs have a heat wall around 55C where you actually get negative results once you go warmer than 55C, so I tried something else.

At stock vcore (1.35), I have it at 19x200 for 3.8ghz and it's 100% stable at 53C at full load. That and a moderately OC'd 5830 (940/1200) got 5114low/3316high. If I had a Megahalems, Noctua NH-D14 or a H50 with push/pull, I'd go for 4ghz+, but really... I'm fine with things as they are now. For the money spent (I'm cheap!), it's more than enough.

[Skeeterxi]

My system

Amd Phenom II 955 [email protected]
4 gigs DDR3 1333
Radeon 4870x2

It definitely doesn't support crossfire yet. One gpu sits at like 60% load and other at 0. I was playing with like default high settings with ambient occlusion turned off and was getting FPS in the 20s on the dock area after the intro -_-;

[alecrast]

I didn't know the 1055t and the i7 930 were the same price. For games the 1055t is overkill anyway. An i7 is way overkill. If you'll notice Ladymist's post makes mention of price range, he/she will save a hunk of $$ going with an amd quad and amd mobo won't he/she? And won't be necessary to get 6 gigs of ram either.


mintyice: Some information is better than none, as I said in my post before, when the beta 3 starts people will be able to give better information. But from all the information I have(feel free to point me to some better info) the graphics engine in ff14 favors ati cards over nvidia ones. I'll be the first to tell you that the benchmark is shit, but it's still better than nothing isn't it?

For $100 of leeway, she's buying herself a lot of future-proofing. When building a system, get as many cores as you can for as cheap as you can. While games like Mass Effect and Left 4 Dead might have only utilized one or two cores, it's clear that games are starting to make use of more and more processing resources as developers slowly learn how to take advantage of multi-core processors. And, even if a game doesn't make use of all the cores in a system, that leaves room for the user to run mp3 players, web browsers, productivity apps, iTunes, synchronize their cell phones, or whatever else suits their needs while their game is running in the background. The 1055T/1090T/i7 930 are all in the sweet spot for price/performance. If one has the budget for it, there is no reason to go with less. When the current crop of processors creep into the $500+ range, that's when you really start to see diminishing returns for your investment. But at $199 for the i7 930 or 1055T, that's a whole lot of computing power for almost no cost compared to just a few years ago.

Thinking about my earlier post, again I have a hard time justifying the 1090T. The 1055T is a great recommendation for someone that needs a system right now and that knows they want to upgrade their CPU next year since AMD claims they will maintain AM3 compatibility. Intel, unfortunately, is playing games again and is going to release an entirely new platform for their next generation. 1155 versus 1156 really sounds like a money grab to me. LGA 2011 is probably really going to be something, however. With that many pinouts, there's a whole lot of potential there.

[Kami]

hey guys

could use your computer mad skillz here

Currently have a decent rig, but not good enough to run XIV at the level I want it to run.

MB : P5Q Deluxe
CPU : Q8400 @ 2.66
RAM : 6G DDR
GPU : GTX 275

I'm going to purchase a new GPU. I was leaning toward a 5870 but am afraid of bottleneck. Since I don't want to change MB/CPU yet I guess the way to go is to OC my CPU to reduce bottleneck problem. Therefore I have 2 questions here :

What do you think is a reasonable frequence I can hit with my current setup ? (got a 750w alim and a Noctua NH-U12IP "fan").

And do you think let's say ~3.1-3.2 frequence is good enough to justify a 5870 or should I go with a 5850 ?

thanks in advance~

[Kami]

ups, double post sorry

[Ladymist]

Thank you everyone for the input and advice.

I am for sure looking for a system that will last me more then the 2 years this one has. When i upgraded to my current system i thought my board was AM3 ready so it could handle just a CPU upgrade but it doesn't so i need a new system basically. This is part of why i want to look at getting something that will last longer. I was hoping the i7 920 w/ motherboard would do me for 2-3 years then i could drop in a higher end i7 when the prices come down and last me another 1-2 years. However people are mentioning something in AMD that may work better so i don't know now if the I7 is they way i want to go.

For some reference on my prices because someone mentioned it here is my motherboards and CPU prices i can get in store here. (I am canadian btw)

AMD Phenom™ II X6 1090T Black Edition 3.2GHz w/ 9MB Cache (Retail Box, Socket AM3) 319.99
AMD Phenom™ II X6 1055T 2.8GHz w/ 9MB Cache (Retail Box, Socket AM3) 219.99
AMD Phenom™ II X4 965 Black Edition 3.4GHz w/ 8MB Cache (Retail Box, Socket AM3) 199.99
AMD Phenom™ II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz w/ 8MB Cache (Retail Box, Socket AM3) 179.99

Intel Core™ i5 Processor 760 2.8GHz w/ 8MB Cache 229.99
Intel Core™ i5 Processor 750 2.66GHz w/ 8MB Cache 229.99

Intel Core™ i7 Processor 920 2.66GHz w/ 8MB Cache 279.99
Intel Core™ i7 Processor 930 2.80GHz w/ 8MB Cache 319.99


Gigabyte GA-890XA-UD3 w/ DualDDR3 1333, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, USB3.0, 1394, CrossFireX 154.99
Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD5 w/ DualDDR3 1333, 7.1 Audio, Dual Gigabit Lan, USB3.0, 1394, PCI-E, CrossFireX 209.99

Asus P7P55D-E Deluxe w/ Dual DDR3 1600, 9.1 Audio, Dual Gigabit Lan, 1394, PCI-E, Quad CrossFireX / SLI 269.99
Asus P7P55D Deluxe w/ Dual DDR3 1600, 9.1 Audio, Dual Gigabit Lan, 1394, PCI-E, CrossFireX / SLI 229.99
Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P w/ Dual DDR3 2200, 7.1 Audio, Dual Gigabit Lan, USB 3.0, 1394, PCI-E CrossFireX / SLI 194.99

Asus Rampage III Gene w/ Triple DDR3 1600, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, 1394, PCI-E, CrossFireX / SLI 269.99
eVGA X58 SLI LE w/ TripleDDR3 1600, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan 1394, PCI-E, 3-way SLI 249.99


Sorry for the walls of text, i am just getting confused again when i thought i was set lol.

Also for video cards for my, a GTX 460 is around 250 while the 5850's run 340+ here so wasnt sure that the price difference was worth the card.

Thank you again for all the help. I am so confused lol.
Lady (ps i am a true lady so she is just fine lol)

[Questionable]

Honestly if you're going Intel, I would opt for the Bloomfield series, at least it's bit more futureproof for the 6 and 8 cores.

Right now the i7 930 is almost same price as a i7 860.

Don't forget the possible issue with 1156 socket burning up, due to pins not contacting well. Google "
"foxconn issue"

I just went myself from 1156 to 1366 now, still within the exchange period, lucky me lol!

If you want, you can follow my route!

CPU - i7 930 - will OC to 4.0G or a bit more
MB - Asus P6X58D-E - great board with built in USB 3.0 and Sata 6.0gb/sec
Mem - G Skill PC-12800(1600) 6GB, CL8 latency 1.65V

Don't forget if you CF, the 1366 has more lanes of PCI-E. For the board above you can do 16x/16x/1x or 16x/8x/8x

I'm probably getting a 5870CF or 5870+5850. I have a 5870 now on this system I'm building.

[Madmartigan]

I have a PC related question but it is slightly off-topic to FFXIV specific.

I have Win7 and am currently running a Sapphire Vapor-X HD4890 2GB video card on a 24" Acer monitor as the primary and then using DVI to HDMI output it is connected to a 52" Samsung LCD hdtv as a secondary display.

My intent was to play FFXIV on the TV, but as of about 2 weeks ago now my TV isn't recognizing the PC connection. The cables are of course still connected properly.

My question is the failed PC recognition more likely due to an error with the TV or with the video card? Is there a good way to test?

I have plans to upgrade to the Sapphire Toxic HD5870 video card anyways, and at the moment am crossing my fingers that fixes my issues, unless someone else can be of assistance?

[shaddix]

Also for video cards for my, a GTX 460 is around 250 while the 5850's run 340+ here so wasnt sure that the price difference was worth the card.

If it will cost you that much for a 5850 I recant my previous recommendation for the ati 58xx. Hopefully SE will work out the kinks with the fermi cards.

[alecrast]

Thank you everyone for the input and advice.

I am for sure looking for a system that will last me more then the 2 years this one has. When i upgraded to my current system i thought my board was AM3 ready so it could handle just a CPU upgrade but it doesn't so i need a new system basically. This is part of why i want to look at getting something that will last longer. I was hoping the i7 920 w/ motherboard would do me for 2-3 years then i could drop in a higher end i7 when the prices come down and last me another 1-2 years. However people are mentioning something in AMD that may work better so i don't know now if the I7 is they way i want to go.

For some reference on my prices because someone mentioned it here is my motherboards and CPU prices i can get in store here. (I am canadian btw)

AMD Phenom™ II X6 1090T Black Edition 3.2GHz w/ 9MB Cache (Retail Box, Socket AM3) 319.99
AMD Phenom™ II X6 1055T 2.8GHz w/ 9MB Cache (Retail Box, Socket AM3) 219.99
AMD Phenom™ II X4 965 Black Edition 3.4GHz w/ 8MB Cache (Retail Box, Socket AM3) 199.99
AMD Phenom™ II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz w/ 8MB Cache (Retail Box, Socket AM3) 179.99

Intel Core™ i5 Processor 760 2.8GHz w/ 8MB Cache 229.99
Intel Core™ i5 Processor 750 2.66GHz w/ 8MB Cache 229.99

Intel Core™ i7 Processor 920 2.66GHz w/ 8MB Cache 279.99
Intel Core™ i7 Processor 930 2.80GHz w/ 8MB Cache 319.99


Gigabyte GA-890XA-UD3 w/ DualDDR3 1333, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, USB3.0, 1394, CrossFireX 154.99
Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD5 w/ DualDDR3 1333, 7.1 Audio, Dual Gigabit Lan, USB3.0, 1394, PCI-E, CrossFireX 209.99

Asus P7P55D-E Deluxe w/ Dual DDR3 1600, 9.1 Audio, Dual Gigabit Lan, 1394, PCI-E, Quad CrossFireX / SLI 269.99
Asus P7P55D Deluxe w/ Dual DDR3 1600, 9.1 Audio, Dual Gigabit Lan, 1394, PCI-E, CrossFireX / SLI 229.99
Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P w/ Dual DDR3 2200, 7.1 Audio, Dual Gigabit Lan, USB 3.0, 1394, PCI-E CrossFireX / SLI 194.99

Asus Rampage III Gene w/ Triple DDR3 1600, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, 1394, PCI-E, CrossFireX / SLI 269.99
eVGA X58 SLI LE w/ TripleDDR3 1600, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan 1394, PCI-E, 3-way SLI 249.99


Sorry for the walls of text, i am just getting confused again when i thought i was set lol.

Also for video cards for my, a GTX 460 is around 250 while the 5850's run 340+ here so wasnt sure that the price difference was worth the card.

Thank you again for all the help. I am so confused lol.
Lady (ps i am a true lady so she is just fine lol)

Welcome to the wonderful world of computer upgrades. If you go the AMD route, you can simply drop in a new AM3 processor based on Bulldozer if AMD follows their roadmap and maintains AM3 compatibility. The other caveat is that your motherboard manufacturer will have to release a BIOS update to recognize the new processor. Some companies are better about this than others. 790-based boards might or might not get the BIOS updates necessary to recognize a new CPU. 890-based boards from reputable companies such as Gigabyte, ASUS, and MSI probably will. The question becomes whether or not it will be advantageous for you to simply drop in a new processor. Sandy Bridge, Intel's next bid for CPU dominance, is going to ship with PCI Express 3.0 which once more doubles the bandwidth specifications. I would expect AMD to follow with a successor chipset to the 890 that rivals or exceeds Intel's solution.

With Intel, you're essentially banking on them releasing a new i7 for cheap down the road because there's not a whole lot of bang-for-buck that you're going to get out of the existing i7s coming down in price given that the 920 and 930 overclock so well (I don't expect the hexacore flagships to drop much in price, even in a couple years - just look at how expensive the old X6800 Core 2 Extreme still is). Currently, there is no "value" 6-core i7 available. Intel likes to surprise us with new processors, however, so it's possible they'll release some budget hexacore i7 chips but I wouldn't bank on it since they usually do the "Surprise, cheap new processors!" trick in their die-shrink phase, not their new architecture phase.

Basically, buy something and be happy with it because there will always be something new right around the corner. Unfortunately, the closer we get to the end of the year, the worse time it is to build a new system because new micro-architectures from both Intel and AMD are closing in.

Just to add, we're all really arguing over very slight performance differences and personal preference. i7 920, i7 930, 1055T, and 1090T will all perform admirably for you and you would be happy with any of those purchases. It's really difficult to go wrong with any of those 4 processors. If you choose any one of them, you've already made the right decision.

[Kyrra]

Anyone have a recommendation for a Heatsink/fan for a i7-930 CPU?
Right now I'm looking at the Prolimatech Megahalems: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835242001
with this fan: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185144

Any other recommendations. I'm going to be use a ASUS P6X58D-E motherboard in an Antec Nine Hundred Two for the case. I'm afraid of some of the heatsinks because they may not fit in the case. Some people seem to report that they may have to remove the case side-fan to make most heatsinks fit (including the Megahalem).

[Questionable]

Anyone have a recommendation for a Heatsink/fan for a i7-930 CPU?
Right now I'm looking at the Prolimatech Megahalems: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835242001
with this fan: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185144

Any other recommendations. I'm going to be use a ASUS P6X58D-E motherboard in an Antec Nine Hundred Two for the case. I'm afraid of some of the heatsinks because they may not fit in the case. Some people seem to report that they may have to remove the case side-fan to make most heatsinks fit (including the Megahalem).

I have the Scythe Mugen-2 Rev.B - Jesus what a long name. It's really good from the reviews. It will fit that MB which is the one I have. Not sure about case, but I'm geting the CM HAF X, that will fit my setup.

[Kyrra]

I have the Scythe Mugen-2 Rev.B - Jesus what a long name. It's really good from the reviews. It will fit that MB which is the one I have. Not sure about case, but I'm geting the CM HAF X, that will fit my setup.

Did you 2 fans and setup a push/pull fan system on the heatsink?

[Skyfoxx]

Anyone have a recommendation for a Heatsink/fan for a i7-930 CPU?
Right now I'm looking at the Prolimatech Megahalems: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835242001
with this fan: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185144

Any other recommendations. I'm going to be use a ASUS P6X58D-E motherboard in an Antec Nine Hundred Two for the case. I'm afraid of some of the heatsinks because they may not fit in the case. Some people seem to report that they may have to remove the case side-fan to make most heatsinks fit (including the Megahalem).

I have a Corsair H50 and it's performing amazingly on my [email protected]. temperatures at load droped by ~20C to 52C, max temp after 30hrs of prime95 is 64C.

The reason I bring this cooler up is that I was concerned about a new Heatsink not fitting in my case. The Corsair H50 has performed better than I expected and it doesn't take a huge ammount of space.

[Questionable]

I haven't installed it yet but if I can fit 2 fans, I will do push pull. Either way there is 2 massive 200m fans on top of the HAF X which are exhaust so if anything they will act as pull fans if I position the mugen fan on the bottom side.

Ideally if my rams fit I will put the push pull horizontally

[Cooleko]

Anyone have a recommendation for a Heatsink/fan for a i7-930 CPU?
Right now I'm looking at the Prolimatech Megahalems: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835242001
with this fan: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185144

Any other recommendations. I'm going to be use a ASUS P6X58D-E motherboard in an Antec Nine Hundred Two for the case. I'm afraid of some of the heatsinks because they may not fit in the case. Some people seem to report that they may have to remove the case side-fan to make most heatsinks fit (including the Megahalem).

I installed: Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 120mm SSO CPU Cooler a year ago when I built my PC, it was huge and a push/pull setup. I am still happy with it till this day.

However, I recently installed a CoolIT SYSTEMS ECO-R120 Advanced Liquid Cooling (ALC) in a friends PC for $72 and it works wonderfully. It brings an OC 930 down in temps drastically over the $180 heatsink we used in my system.

So I recommend saving money and temps with the ALC.

EDIT: I just relooked into this avenue and there is now a new product on the market that looks even more promissing, for $92 from amazon you can get the Corsiar h70 which uses 2 fans and a better radiator. You might want to check into the new product it was announced on 8/5 of this year.

[Kami]

hey guys

could use your computer mad skillz here

Currently have a decent rig, but not good enough to run XIV at the level I want it to run.

MB : P5Q Deluxe
CPU : Q8400 @ 2.66
RAM : 6G DDR
GPU : GTX 275

I'm going to purchase a new GPU. I was leaning toward a 5870 but am afraid of bottleneck. Since I don't want to change MB/CPU yet I guess the way to go is to OC my CPU to reduce bottleneck problem. Therefore I have 2 questions here :

What do you think is a reasonable frequence I can hit with my current setup ? (got a 750w alim and a Noctua NH-U12IP "fan").

And do you think let's say ~3.1-3.2 frequence is good enough to justify a 5870 or should I go with a 5850 ?

thanks in advance~

bump

Could use some help here please ^^;

[shaddix]

I don't know the answer, maybe I can help once my Q6600 arrives

[Kyrra]

So I was looking at newegg for EVGA Nvidia 460 cards and they have 6 listed with very small differences in the part numbers. There are 3 regular and 3 "superclocked" ones.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Id=1&name=EVGA

And here's the comparison on the Evga website: http://www.evga.com/products/compare...01G-P3-1372-TR

The only difference I see is two are external exhaust, but those 2 seem to be exactly the same

EDIT: Looking around some more, the MSI Cyclone 460 card seems to get some love:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/19404/11

[Juhpe]

So how is teh beta running with cfx support? I know the benchmark didn't support it.