FFXIV Hardware Requirements

[shaddix]

So I was looking at newegg for EVGA Nvidia 460 cards and they have 6 listed with very small differences in the part numbers. There are 3 regular and 3 "superclocked" ones.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Id=1&name=EVGA

And here's the comparison on the Evga website: http://www.evga.com/products/compare...01G-P3-1372-TR

The only difference I see is two are external exhaust, but those 2 seem to be exactly the same

EDIT: Looking around some more, the MSI Cyclone 460 card seems to get some love:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/19404/11

I had 2 of those cyclones, they are very good cards, much quieter and cooler than the evga EE versions. That said, the performance in FF14 was so underwhelming on the 460 I opted to swap to the EVGA one so I can use their trade-in option to get a GTX 475 if/when they come out.

[alecrast]

So I was looking at newegg for EVGA Nvidia 460 cards and they have 6 listed with very small differences in the part numbers. There are 3 regular and 3 "superclocked" ones.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Id=1&name=EVGA

And here's the comparison on the Evga website: http://www.evga.com/products/compare...01G-P3-1372-TR

The only difference I see is two are external exhaust, but those 2 seem to be exactly the same

Differences are as follows:

01G-P3-1373-TR - 2-year warranty, dumps heat outside your case

01G-P3-1373-AR - Limited lifetime warranty (provided you register it within 30 days and upload a copy of your receipt), dumps heat outside your case

01G-P3-1372-TR - 2-year warranty, different cooling solution

At only $10 more, I'd get the lifetime warranty one, having used EVGA's lifetime warranty before when a 9800GX2 died, but that's just me.

[Twentytwo]

I would guess around $450 but I might be completely off, but any of you guys have an idea of the price of the GTX475s when they come out? Also will a 475 be outright better than the SuperClocked 470s?

[Adajer]

wikipedia says $359 ish, 475s should have superclocked editions as the rest of the bunch

[Purrrfect]

hey guys

could use your computer mad skillz here

Currently have a decent rig, but not good enough to run XIV at the level I want it to run.

MB : P5Q Deluxe
CPU : Q8400 @ 2.66
RAM : 6G DDR
GPU : GTX 275

I'm going to purchase a new GPU. I was leaning toward a 5870 but am afraid of bottleneck. Since I don't want to change MB/CPU yet I guess the way to go is to OC my CPU to reduce bottleneck problem. Therefore I have 2 questions here :

What do you think is a reasonable frequence I can hit with my current setup ? (got a 750w alim and a Noctua NH-U12IP "fan").

And do you think let's say ~3.1-3.2 frequence is good enough to justify a 5870 or should I go with a 5850 ?

thanks in advance~

If you are buying a gpu and you don't plan to upgrade the cpu/mobo later, I guess a 5850 would be better. But it sounds like you just aren't upgrading it now and will continue to use the card later with another mobo, which I would say get the best gpu you can w/o spending more than you can if you are buying now. I think with either you are going to run into cpu limits more than gpu unless you turn up a lot of settings.

[Uzor]

I've asked in the tech forum before, but I don't want to bump my thread, so I'll just ask here.

I got the following setup for my computer:

Ace Ecco 400 Black (Excluding PSU)
Intel Core i7 930 2,8GHz / 8MB / 4,8GT/s Socket 1366
Asus - Socket 1366 - ATX Intel X58 (P6X58D-E) - PCI-E / DDR3 / SATA / USB 3.0
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 5870
Corsair 6144MB DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (9-9-9-24) (3x2048MB) (TR3X6G1600C9)
Corsair PowerSupply (PSU) 650W TX ATX
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB (7200RPM / 32MB Cache / SATA II)
Samsung Intern SATA DVD±RW 22x Black (Dual-Layer)

My question is, what kind of cooler for the CPU would you recommend? Would this one work:
Corsair Hydro Series H50 Liquid CPU Cooler

Or don't I need any particular cooler if I don't plan to OC my computer? I'm mainly just worried about the CPU overheating if I don't get one <.<;

[shaddix]

I've asked in the tech forum before, but I don't want to bump my thread, so I'll just ask here.

I got the following setup for my computer:



My question is, what kind of cooler for the CPU would you recommend? Would this one work:
Corsair Hydro Series H50 Liquid CPU Cooler

Or don't I need any particular cooler if I don't plan to OC my computer? I'm mainly just worried about the CPU overheating if I don't get one <.<;

If you don't OC it, you can use the heatsink that comes with it. But that's like buying a ferrari and only using it to go to church on Sunday.

[Uzor]

Well, I've never OC'd anything before, so I'm terrified of breaking something <.<;

Let's say I want to OC it a little bit; would that cooler work? I wouldn't need another PSU then?

[shaddix]

Well, I've never OC'd anything before, so I'm terrified of breaking something <.<;

Let's say I want to OC it a little bit; would that cooler work? I wouldn't need another PSU then?

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1025/7/
looks good to me

Don't think you need better than 650w for that build, need others to comment though as I haven't built an i7 system.

You won't break anything unless you somehow crank the voltage up way too goddamn high. It's pretty hard to break stuff.

[Uzor]

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1025/7/
looks good to me

Don't think you need better than 650w for that build, need others to comment though as I haven't built an i7 system.

You won't break anything unless you somehow crank the voltage up way too goddamn high. It's pretty hard to break stuff.

Ok, thanks.

So for my next question, as its currently out of stock - I bought Artic Silver 5 cooling paste to use too, but the above water cooling system is out of stock (and my computer parts arrive tomorrow). As I don't know when it will be in stock again, is it easy to wipe off the cooling paste if I decide to get a better cooling system later?

I read you can use microfiber thingy and high alcoholic solution to wipe it off. But like I said, I've never done it before, so want to be extra careful so that I don't mess up.

[disland]

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1025/7/
looks good to me

Don't think you need better than 650w for that build, need others to comment though as I haven't built an i7 system.

You won't break anything unless you somehow crank the voltage up way too goddamn high. It's pretty hard to break stuff.

Well just look at up the TDW of the parts and then gauge the PSU on that. Also important to get a non shitty PSU like one made by Corsair.

[shaddix]

Ok, thanks.

So for my next question, as its currently out of stock - I bought Artic Silver 5 cooling paste to use too, but the above water cooling system is out of stock (and my computer parts arrive tomorrow). As I don't know when it will be in stock again, is it easy to wipe off the cooling paste if I decide to get a better cooling system later?

I read you can use microfiber thingy and high alcoholic solution to wipe it off. But like I said, I've never done it before, so want to be extra careful so that I don't mess up.

Yeah it's easy to clean, use alcohol and coffee filters. The thermal paste that comes preapplied to that H50 cooler I *think* is shin-etsu which is pretty near the best thermal compound you can get.
If temps end up being high though it's probably worth it to reapply with the AS5 as I've read in a couple places that applying paste to the CPU directly gives you better temps than preapplied paste.

[Cooleko]

I've asked in the tech forum before, but I don't want to bump my thread, so I'll just ask here.

I got the following setup for my computer:



My question is, what kind of cooler for the CPU would you recommend? Would this one work:
Corsair Hydro Series H50 Liquid CPU Cooler

Or don't I need any particular cooler if I don't plan to OC my computer? I'm mainly just worried about the CPU overheating if I don't get one <.<;

TBH, corsair just released the big brother H70, its $92 and I would recommend going that route as it is a tremendous upgrade featuring push/pull fans and a radiator that is twice as thick allowing for more cooling.

[Cooleko]

Ok, thanks.

So for my next question, as its currently out of stock - I bought Artic Silver 5 cooling paste to use too, but the above water cooling system is out of stock (and my computer parts arrive tomorrow). As I don't know when it will be in stock again, is it easy to wipe off the cooling paste if I decide to get a better cooling system later?

I read you can use microfiber thingy and high alcoholic solution to wipe it off. But like I said, I've never done it before, so want to be extra careful so that I don't mess up.

Now, an i7 has a 3 year warranty, this means intel only expects the processor to survive a minimum of 3 years at stock voltages. If you overclock, the wattage of the chip increases by a squared factor and decreases the life of the chip. So your chances of "breaking" the chip are not high, but you can expect a decent overclock to reduce the life of the chip by about a third.

I would recommend just using a qtip and no solutions to get the thermal paste off your cpu. Also, take care to not damage your pins when you are removing/placing your chip for cleaning.

[shaddix]

There's no way overclocking is going to make it go from lasting 3 years to 2 years. More like it will make it last 15 years instead of 20.

[Rasengan]

Dip a q-tip in some high % (91% and up) Isopropyl Alcohol and use it to wipe off the old thermal paste. Afterwards, use a microfiber (eyeglass cleaning) cloth or coffee filter to make sure it's clean.

[Cooleko]

There's no way overclocking is going to make it go from lasting 3 years to 2 years. More like it will make it last 15 years instead of 20.

I gave minimum expectations based on warranty period (which happens to be the 'guarantee' that Intel stands behind). Obviously the CPU may/may not last longer; but, if you seriously think an overclocked CPU is going to last 15 years I hope you don't get too upset when it doesn't.

Even though I am warning of the shortfalls from the OC, I readily OC my rigs and have yet to have anything fail on me. One day it will happen but it is a risk that I know I am taking so I won't mind when it happens. I just want the people who have never done it before to know what they are getting into.

[shaddix]

I gave minimum expectations based on warranty period (which happens to be the 'guarantee' that Intel stands behind). Obviously the CPU may/may not last longer; but, if you seriously think an overclocked CPU is going to last 15 years I hope you don't get too upset when it doesn't.

Even though I am warning of the shortfalls from the OC, I readily OC my rigs and have yet to have anything fail on me. One day it will happen but it is a risk that I know I am taking so I won't mind when it happens. I just want the people who have never done it before to know what they are getting into.

I doubt your crap will ever fail on you because of old age man, no matter how much you oc(safely)! Hell here's a 286 that's still truckin:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-A80286-8-I...ht_3956wt_1137

[Gulkeeva]

I don't think anyone would even... think of keeping a cpu for 15 years...

15 years ago from today.. fastest cpu was like 200mhz (according to google search latest intel cpu)

I don't think you could find something like that unless you go to some village in some remote third world country or a garage sale (or ebay!)

[Uzor]

TBH, corsair just released the big brother H70, its $92 and I would recommend going that route as it is a tremendous upgrade featuring push/pull fans and a radiator that is twice as thick allowing for more cooling.

Well, the H70 isn't for sale in Sweden yet :3

As for reduced lifetime etc, I usually completely replace my computer parts every 2-4 years anyway as they've grown old at that point.