DOW over 9k and rising, unemployment starting to drop, Freddie stabilizing...

[oldoldman]

Hell yeah! Only 247,000 jobs cut in July! Down .1 percent from June!!! Stop the presses, Obama is fucking the savior of the universe! Stimulus is still the biggest crock of shit I have ever seen. Hopefully more motor companies will continue to go bankrupt with us giving them billions! Okay, going back into my bunker. Proceed with the brick throwing at the *girly scream* conservative(s)!

I think it's funny how retarded the conservatives on these forums are. You seem to be the one throwing bricks in this thread.

Edit: Unless I'm getting hella wooshed.

[Beckwin]

the 247k was much lower than expected, and I think that in order for the jobless rate to go down while still losing 247k, it would mean that there's more hiring than that going on in the month.

also vajra jesus man I hate to say this but lurk moar

[Demosthenes11]

Yay for retards like Blarg. How bout you, who lives in Canada, gtfo please kkthxbai. You don't even live here, and you believe Obama wasn't born in the US lol? GTFO!!! HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII.

If McCain won the election, we'd probably not be discussing the fact that he was born on the Panama Canal, and we'd not be arguing about how that area wasn't a U.S. controlled territory at the time (By the NAVY), because he is white, and all Presidents must be white, or it is WRONG. People are just trying to stirr up bullshit about Barack (Socialist, Communist, Terrorist (Because he met Ayers once), Muslim (Because his middle name is Hussein), AntiChrist, Not A US Citizen, Racist (Because he sided with his long time friend Professor Gates, instead of Crowley), blah blah blah blah).

Well, I can tell you one thing Mr. Canadian Blarg, go make me some maple syrup and prepare my winter olympics, because I cannot wait to watch it on my HDTV, and PLEASE get off the USA's dick, because you dont even live here bitch!

dear god please get swine flu

PS: fiscal policy has lagging results aka you don't see the results for years and sometimes decades. It wasn't fiscal policy turning the economy around.

[ertyu]

More deficit spending WOO!

Hey Obama, maybe if we make the national debt 20+ trillion by the time we're done with your term (between public healthcare and whatnot, that goal shouldn't be too unreachable), we can just tell China that we're filing for bankruptcy and that we can't pay them back.

Start over with a nice, fresh clean slate, how bout them apples?

[oldoldman]

More deficit spending WOO!

Hey Obama, maybe if we make the national debt 20+ trillion by the time we're done with your term (between public healthcare and whatnot, that goal shouldn't be too unreachable), we can just tell China that we're filing for bankruptcy and that we can't pay them back.

Start over with a nice, fresh clean slate, how bout them apples?

Enjoy your WW3

[Blarg]

Yay for retards like Blarg. How bout you, who lives in Canada, gtfo please kkthxbai. You don't even live here, and you believe Obama wasn't born in the US lol? GTFO!!! HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII.

If McCain won the election, we'd probably not be discussing the fact that he was born on the Panama Canal, and we'd not be arguing about how that area wasn't a U.S. controlled territory at the time (By the NAVY), because he is white, and all Presidents must be white, or it is WRONG. People are just trying to stirr up bullshit about Barack (Socialist, Communist, Terrorist (Because he met Ayers once), Muslim (Because his middle name is Hussein), AntiChrist, Not A US Citizen, Racist (Because he sided with his long time friend Professor Gates, instead of Crowley), blah blah blah blah).

Well, I can tell you one thing Mr. Canadian Blarg, go make me some maple syrup and prepare my winter olympics, because I cannot wait to watch it on my HDTV, and PLEASE get off the USA's dick, because you dont even live here bitch!

Then how come he is black like a kenyna, moran!

[_chuchu]

Yay for retards like Blarg. How bout you, who lives in Canada, gtfo please kkthxbai. You don't even live here, and you believe Obama wasn't born in the US lol? GTFO!!! HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII.

If McCain won the election, we'd probably not be discussing the fact that he was born on the Panama Canal, and we'd not be arguing about how that area wasn't a U.S. controlled territory at the time (By the NAVY), because he is white, and all Presidents must be white, or it is WRONG. People are just trying to stirr up bullshit about Barack (Socialist, Communist, Terrorist (Because he met Ayers once), Muslim (Because his middle name is Hussein), AntiChrist, Not A US Citizen, Racist (Because he sided with his long time friend Professor Gates, instead of Crowley), blah blah blah blah).

Well, I can tell you one thing Mr. Canadian Blarg, go make me some maple syrup and prepare my winter olympics, because I cannot wait to watch it on my HDTV, and PLEASE get off the USA's dick, because you dont even live here bitch!

trolled

[ertyu]

People are just trying to stirr up bullshit about Barack (Socialist, Communist)

Because he is?

:O

I just went there.

[Vajra]

Then how come he is black like a kenyna, moran!

Go choke on a dick beesh, his mom is white, read the birth certificate link I posted. He's mixed END OF STORY. I dont know why you're misspelling kenyan, I just don't see any joke in your post. Anyways, like I said, if McCain was President, we wouldn't even be arguing the fact that he WAS born on the Panama Canal, because it was "supposedly" U.S. Territory back then...so it makes him a Naturalized Citizen at birth. I'm calling bullshit, that people accuse Barack of the stupidest shit, just because he's half black.

[_chuchu]

Yay for retards like Blarg. How bout you, who lives in Canada, gtfo please kkthxbai. You don't even live here, and you believe Obama wasn't born in the US lol? GTFO!!! HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII.

If McCain won the election, we'd probably not be discussing the fact that he was born on the Panama Canal, and we'd not be arguing about how that area wasn't a U.S. controlled territory at the time (By the NAVY), because he is white, and all Presidents must be white, or it is WRONG. People are just trying to stirr up bullshit about Barack (Socialist, Communist, Terrorist (Because he met Ayers once), Muslim (Because his middle name is Hussein), AntiChrist, Not A US Citizen, Racist (Because he sided with his long time friend Professor Gates, instead of Crowley), blah blah blah blah).

Well, I can tell you one thing Mr. Canadian Blarg, go make me some maple syrup and prepare my winter olympics, because I cannot wait to watch it on my HDTV, and PLEASE get off the USA's dick, because you dont even live here bitch!

Go choke on a dick beesh, his mom is wife, read the birth certificate link I posted. He's mixed END OF STORY. I dont know why you're misspelling kenyan, I just don't see any joke in your post. Anyways, like I said, if McCain was President, we wouldn't even be arguing the fact that he WAS born on the Panama Canal, because it was "supposedly" U.S. Territory back then...so it makes him a Naturalized Citizen at birth. I'm calling bullshit, that people accuse Barack of the stupidest shit, just because he's half black.

http://www.imagebeast.net/images/4te...9db4t4od32.jpg

[ertyu]

Go choke on a dick beesh, his mom is wife, read the birth certificate link I posted. He's mixed END OF STORY. I dont know why you're misspelling kenyan, I just don't see any joke in your post. Anyways, like I said, if McCain was President, we wouldn't even be arguing the fact that he WAS born on the Panama Canal, because it was "supposedly" U.S. Territory back then...so it makes him a Naturalized Citizen at birth. I'm calling bullshit, that people accuse Barack of the stupidest shit, just because he's half black.

I wouldn't give a fuck if our president was a pasty ass white guy. If any president made cash for clunkers and tried to do this shit with public healthcare and signed a 1 trillion dollar stimulus, I would call bullshit if he was white, indian, black, mexican, asian, you name it.

[Wulfgang]

Fuck the conservative doomsayers. Way to go, Obama.

The effects of fiscal and monetary policy are extremely limited as compared to the rhythms of the greater business cycle. To attribute this (temporary imo) gain on greater macroeconomic indicators to Obama would be akin to attributing America's rise out of the Great Depression to FDR's New Deal (i.e. wrong).

I'm not an opponent of Obama, but the BG forums are so blindly liberal, end of discussion.

[Senoska]

Wow....

[Demosthenes11]

christ vajra is giving vandole a run for his money on wooosh of the century

[Wulfgang]

Bleh, I take it you were being sarcastic?

[Rhinox]

dear god please get swine flu

PS: fiscal policy has lagging results aka you don't see the results for years and sometimes decades. It wasn't fiscal policy turning the economy around.

true. The mess we're in today is largely because of the mass deregulation started by reagan.

[Beckwin]

The effects of fiscal and monetary policy are extremely limited as compared to the rhythms of the greater business cycle. To attribute this (temporary imo) gain on greater macroeconomic indicators to Obama would be akin to attributing America's rise out of the Great Depression to FDR's New Deal (i.e. wrong).

I'm not an opponent of Obama, but the BG forums are so blindly liberal, end of discussion.

sorry man but it seems like the majority of liberals in this topic are remaining skeptical/cautious about calling this more than it may be.

also vajra jesus man, jesus

I agree that we won't really see the long-term effects until (dun dun dun) the long-term, but I disagree that fiscal/economic policy has no short term effects.

[Beckwin]

true. The mess we're in today is largely because of the mass deregulation started by reagan.

well for example, to support my previous statement about short and long term effects, we very soon after the repealing of glass-steagall in favor of graham/leach/bliley saw a housing boom and now we see the longer term effect of it.

[Plow]

Yeah, the concept that "fiscal policy doesn't change anything fast" kind of goes out the window when you're dealing with dramatic moves intended to do exactly that.

This is not the same *kind* of progress Clinton made by any means, and it will take a ton of support to actually progress beyond preventing regression, but it's still a rather amazing apparent quick effect.

[Beckwin]

what the shit I'm agreeing with plow on something.

quick, someone find a police brutality story