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    Hah, I think it's pretty funny the two of us are in the same boat right now. I actually leveled Sorcerer to 30 for my last job for Daeva set and I really regretted it because it took SO GOD DAMN LONG to kill things, I can't imagine it gets any better past that point.

    It's just pretty much boiling down to me that, I know I love Spiritmaster and it's awesome in PvP, but there's a lot of stuff to do ingame that's not PvP (Dark Poeta, Fort Instances, etc) now and upcoming that I'd like to participate in, and well Spiritmasters aren't exactly popular when it comes to PvE. I still haven't seen a single Tahabata video with a Spiritmaster in it -.-.

    I do enjoy Chanter though, it's fun to play (and awesome when you attack someone and you proc a stun or a knockdown and see like 10 buttons light up to rape said person with) and I like playing the support role as well at times. It's a hard choice. I may just stick with SM since pets are supposed to start scaling with gear soon and that might make getting groups in PvE more bearable, but Chanters are just so god damn popular it's impossible not to get a group as one. Meh.

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    I love chanter and never expected that I would, but the higher level I get, the more crazy shit I can do. I took down four seriously geared twinks tonight by myself (full daeva sets fully enchanted will do some damage) and the group attacking me actually worked to my advantage. I always get party invites and find that when you play the job actively you can really enhance your party. My gladiator is 44 and when I party with chanters it seems like a lot of them just hang back and do nothing. They make me sad.

    The only down side is that I run through a lot of stigma shards and always have a ton of stigma stones on me. But the job is really fun for the most part. Main healing in dredgion sucks.

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    If grinding on Sorc is slow you are doing something horribly wrong.

    The only job I've seen killing stuff quicker than me is Spiritmaster due to the ridiculous amount of dots they can put on a mob.

    I don't know what faction you play though, but as Elyos I leveld my sorc to 47 in about 3 weeks and a bit.

    From 25 on killed Kaidan Mine Elites to 32, then went on to FT for some gear till 35 and then went on to LC from 35-42 after which I did Indratu elites.

    Shouldnt take longer than 2 mins per elite either.
    And from 35 on, you can abuse the treelog thingy in LC so mobs won't ever have a chance of hitting you unless you are, wel... dumb really.

    Only reason I quit sorc is cause I started making a twink and actually get to see some pvp while rifting as opposed to higher levels who consider Dredgion and siege pvp.
    Heck, I see more 50s while rifting than I saw on my sorc in the abyss or Beluslan/Heiron.

    But yeah, back on topic.
    Sorc isn't slow to grind with, at all.

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    I'm actually in a disturbingly similar boat with SM vs Chanter. I have the full daeva set so that doesn't matter to me. I rolled an asmo sm on a different server for something to do when I don't feel like dp/dredg/whatever (which is more and more often, as cleric gets more and more boring), and a chanter alt on my main server for shits and giggles.

    Chanter is appealing because it's like what cleric was while I was leveling, but stopped being once I hit 50: fun, a little bit of everything, does whatever the party needs. SM is appealing because it's completely different, easy to level even casually, and because it's so deliciously fun just working people over in pvp from 100-0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argantes View Post
    If grinding on Sorc is slow you are doing something horribly wrong.

    The only job I've seen killing stuff quicker than me is Spiritmaster due to the ridiculous amount of dots they can put on a mob.

    I don't know what faction you play though, but as Elyos I leveld my sorc to 47 in about 3 weeks and a bit.

    From 25 on killed Kaidan Mine Elites to 32, then went on to FT for some gear till 35 and then went on to LC from 35-42 after which I did Indratu elites.

    Shouldnt take longer than 2 mins per elite either.
    And from 35 on, you can abuse the treelog thingy in LC so mobs won't ever have a chance of hitting you unless you are, wel... dumb really.

    Only reason I quit sorc is cause I started making a twink and actually get to see some pvp while rifting as opposed to higher levels who consider Dredgion and siege pvp.
    Heck, I see more 50s while rifting than I saw on my sorc in the abyss or Beluslan/Heiron.

    But yeah, back on topic.
    Sorc isn't slow to grind with, at all.
    My Main is SM. I'm used to killing 2-3 mobs at a time in the abyss for fucking retarded exp. Yeah, I 2 shot things on my sorc, but its still stupidily slow compared to SM or even my Glad.

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    Pretty much what Pooky said. My two main classes before fooling around on Sorcerer for my last Daeva piece were Spiritmaster and Gladiator.

    My Gladiator killed mobs so fast, Wrathful combo + Crip Cut at the end = dead mob in 5 seconds. Rupture + Seismic Wave combo the next mob, etc.

    Let's not even get into Spiritmaster killing speed, I leveled Spiritmaster from 1-30 in like a day and a half lol.

    Compared to what I've played Sorcs kill shit pretty slow even when geared compared to what I'm used to, but at the same time if you don't forget to use Lumiel's and Absorb Energy, you don't have to really use pots nearly as much as compared to other classes. That still doesn't make it fun

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    I must've been fighting the wrong mobs with my gladiator, then. At lower levels, would usually take about 1.5 runs through the basic and AoE chains unless I got lucky on crits and KDs for a solid CC. At 50, one rounders happen now and then, but I'm usually fighting mobs 4-5 levels below me along with pretty much everything critting along with DB and CC use.

    Mob longevity, in this case, is also why I fucking hate calydons since they'd hit for like 400+, sometimes 1k on their move spam.

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    On my Gladiator I leveled on "squishy" and ranged mobs for the sole reason that they die fast and if they're on their back, they don't do damage. Stuff like Manduri Looters, Mudthorns, Virago Shamans, Waterworms etc.

    I couldn't imagine fighting Calydons as a melee, since they open up with Blindside attack that hits for like 800-1k, fuck that. I loved them as a SM though, you could kill 2-3 of them at a time, focusing on the casters while the melee ones died to dots + chain of earth chasing you around.

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    Ranged mobs usually hurt me the most, especially when KDs don't cooperate. Would often try to avoid things that'd poison or DoT, too. Potions and such suck because they don't scale with your HP levels, so recovery can take longer than it would for squishies. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    I must've been fighting the wrong mobs with my gladiator, then. At lower levels, would usually take about 1.5 runs through the basic and AoE chains unless I got lucky on crits and KDs for a solid CC. At 50, one rounders happen now and then, but I'm usually fighting mobs 4-5 levels below me along with pretty much everything critting along with DB and CC use.

    Mob longevity, in this case, is also why I fucking hate calydons since they'd hit for like 400+, sometimes 1k on their move spam.
    My glad was dropping balaur my level in a full chain, but I spent a fuckton of money on my glad; easily 25mil in gear, and spamming scrolls when grinding too.

    I fucking LOVE calydons, ask anyone who has ever played with me lol, but I would never fight them on any melee other than sin. Opening with Blindside Attack is retarded.

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    It was a reply to "Like watching paint dry"

    I already stated that it's slower than a SM.
    Don't see why you need to bring that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argantes View Post
    It was a reply to "Like watching paint dry"

    I already stated that it's slower than a SM.
    Don't see why you need to bring that up.
    So your argument was that sorc isn't like watching paint dry, when you know that compared to my main, it is like watching paint dry?

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    No, my arguement is that it isn't THAT slow.

    Unless, like I said, you are doing something horribly wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argantes View Post
    No, my arguement is that it isn't THAT slow.

    Unless, like I said, you are doing something horribly wrong.
    Isn't that slow compared to what? Pooky is comparing it to their main, which is SM, so compared to that, yes it is slow. Seriously, this isn't difficult to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argantes View Post
    No, my arguement is that it isn't THAT slow.

    Unless, like I said, you are doing something horribly wrong.
    But....it IS that slow. Unless you're used to Templar or some shit.

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    This is turning in to a senseless arguement. You stick to your point of view, I'll stick to mine, we live happily ever after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argantes View Post
    This is turning in to a senseless arguement. You stick to your point of view, I'll stick to mine, we live happily ever after.
    I'm sorry you don't seem to get that it's impossible to quantify the leveling speed of a class without the use of some standard to compare to; in this case, another class.

    For example if all you knew was Templar: Sorc would seem a lot faster to level, and it is. However that doesn't mean that anyone else who has a different standard of comparison is doing something wrong if Sorc vs Any Other Class doesn't seem as fast as Sorc vs. Templar.

    We obviously have different standards of how fast the job seems to level, that doesn't mean that either of us is doing something wrong; which was your original statement.


    /end derail.


    I'm going to work on getting sorc to 40+ this weekend so I can have some delicious SR. Time to bang out eight more levels in the abyss ._.

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    If you just want to level real quick though... don't be in the abyss. Don't know what faction you play, but yeah, if you're elyos, stick to what I mentioned earlier.

    If you are in the abyss trying to level up quick you are in fact doing something horribly wrong.

    I'm guessing the LC area in morheim should be the same as the one in Eltnen when it comes to mob levels.
    I kill a lot of 35-45 players in Morheim's LC/MMV

    Maybe better to go there and level up on soloing elites. It is really great exp.

    You could kill non-elites for I don't know.. 30k a kill? Not sure what it is since I don't know what level you are, but from 34-35 on, you can do LC elites for 250k each. Within 2 minutes each.

    much, much quicker than doing abyss mobs, And less chance of getting ganked.
    Especially if you are Elyos.

    If you jump down from Laigas and go past the two commanders guarding the path towards Penteros, you can kill assassins (lowest HP LC elites) back to back. And short off the odd sin, hardly any asmo ever comes there on my server atleast. Don't have any tips for Morheim though. I just kill asmos there -.-

    If it's not just about getting exp quick, disregard this entire post

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    I'm aiming for 40 this weekend on my Chanter too Pooky

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    I'm hopefully going to make a push for 50 chanter this weekend, but I'm going to busy Sunday and hopefully tonight.

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