Random Question Thread IV: ROCKY WINS

[Mikus]

See the big blue words... click on them.

Yeah, there isn't shit on that page but empty slots. Example:

Support Jobs

A discussion of the various support jobs available to Dark Knight, and at what levels they are useful.

So yeah, there is no info on that page.

[Mikus]

Things like these have been answered a numerous amount of time, check the What's better / Randomer Question threads, or ask in both of them and people will help most likley.

I haven't checked there so I'll try poking around. I hoped Alla would have something decent in the stickes but it's mostly 2006 shit or a thread getting turned into a flamefest. Thanks for the insight.

[Miroku_Asura]

Yeah, there isn't shit on that page but empty slots. Example:

Support Jobs

A discussion of the various support jobs available to Dark Knight, and at what levels they are useful.

So yeah, there is no info on that page.

He means if you actually click on the blue links, it takes you to another page with the detailed info. I'll assume the author of the guide formatted it like this so you wouldn't be scrolling up and down frequently, while squinting through a wall of text.

[Raen Ryong]

Indeed he did

I made that guide years ago; some things may be slightly outdated and I haven't updated with all of the new update items or even finished some of the equipment sections :D but it's fairly okay.

[zagex]

does enmity+/- affect hate generated by resting at all? i still don't have a second hMP earring so wondering if it would be worth it at all to swap in novia or if it's just a waste of time/effort.

The way I understood resting and hate was that resting would put you on the hate list, but not actually give you any enmity at all. So as long as you're already on the hate list, resting would not affect your enmity. Therefore, +/- enmity does not matter while resting, and finally, a second +hMP would be better.

[Fridell]

I haven't checked there so I'll try poking around. I hoped Alla would have something decent in the stickes but it's mostly 2006 shit or a thread getting turned into a flamefest. Thanks for the insight.

Yea I wouldn't trust any good info from Alla these days beside on the MNK forums perhaps, better check around BG :D
Only thing can can be bothersome is read through all random threads with info.

So yea, whatever question you have you could either ask here or do some in-depth thread about DRK I guess.

[Argettio]

He means if you actually click on the blue links, it takes you to another page with the detailed info. I'll assume the author of the guide formatted it like this so you wouldn't be scrolling up and down frequently, while squinting through a wall of text.

What he said

[Thunder]

Whats the cap on ninjutsu enfeebles inchi and ni vs t1 and t2 enfeebles of rdm?

I read testing shown kurayami: ni has the same potency as capped blind II(-20? eva). I'm not sure on the rest. If you can get two rdm and nin together and para some lv1 bunnies, that could show a difference in potential caps if there is one. Slow could be narrowed down in ballista with raise's recast or something.

[Valisk]

Where did the phrase "cool story bro" originate?

[Mikus]

He means if you actually click on the blue links, it takes you to another page with the detailed info. I'll assume the author of the guide formatted it like this so you wouldn't be scrolling up and down frequently, while squinting through a wall of text.

Wow /facepalm on my end. I just took that as links back to Wiki's pages, not what Raen wrote. I'm at work currently but will be sure to read the entire article. Thanks again.

[Corwen]

Whats the cap on ninjutsu enfeebles inchi and ni vs t1 and t2 enfeebles of rdm?

Based on Kirschy's research on slow testing: http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/58770...o-slow-ii.html

Slow 1 caps at ~29.3% if caster MND is 75 or more higher than target MND
Slow 2 caps at ~39.06 with 5 merits with caster MND 75 or greater than target MND

Hojo: ichi and Ni are a static ~14.6% and ~19.5% slow effect respectively, and potency is unaffected by any stat.

As for the other enfeebles, I have no idea.

[Thunder]

Ran a search on all of Kirschy's posts because I'm pretty sure that's whom I've heard it from last but..

What's Banish I? 14 + dMND or 16 + dMND?

[Cream Soda]

Based on Kirschy's research on slow testing: http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/58770...o-slow-ii.html

Slow 1 caps at ~29.3% if caster MND is 75 or more higher than target MND
Slow 2 caps at ~39.06 with 5 merits with caster MND 75 or greater than target MND

Hojo: ichi and Ni are a static ~14.6% and ~19.5% slow effect respectively, and potency is unaffected by any stat.

As for the other enfeebles, I have no idea.

Thx, got another question now.

1 Handed Attack = {( 8 + Combat Skill + STR/2 + (+attack from gear) + (+attack trait/ability/minuet)) * berserk effect (if available)} * (1+ percentage increase from food )
2 Handed Attack = {( 8 + Combat Skill + 3STR/4 + (+attack from gear) + (+attack trait/ability/minuet)) * berserk effect (if available)} * (1+ percentage increase from food )

Things like zerk and chaos roll won't affect the attack you gain from food? Let's say i'm sitting at 450 attack, eat a kabob and am now at 510 attack.

The bonuses from zerk and chaos are applied to the 450 or the 510?

Also, how does zerk and chaos roll blend together? would chaos roll fall into the trait/abilitiy/minuet section?

let say we have the same 450 attack and have 15% chaos roll, 25% bersrek. What would be the correct way to do this?

450 x 1.15 =517.5, 517.5 x 1.25 = 646.875 + kabob = 706.875

or would it go like
450 x 1.40 = 630 + kabob = 690

[FailureMidgard]

Thx, got another question now.

1 Handed Attack = {( 8 + Combat Skill + STR/2 + (+attack from gear) + (+attack trait/ability/minuet)) * berserk effect (if available)} * (1+ percentage increase from food )
2 Handed Attack = {( 8 + Combat Skill + 3STR/4 + (+attack from gear) + (+attack trait/ability/minuet)) * berserk effect (if available)} * (1+ percentage increase from food )

Things like zerk and chaos roll won't affect the attack you gain from food? Let's say i'm sitting at 450 attack, eat a kabob and am now at 510 attack.

The bonuses from zerk and chaos are applied to the 450 or the 510?

Also, how does zerk and chaos roll blend together? would chaos roll fall into the trait/abilitiy/minuet section?

let say we have the same 450 attack and have 15% chaos roll, 25% bersrek. What would be the correct way to do this?

450 x 1.15 =517.5, 517.5 x 1.25 = 646.875 + kabob = 706.875

or would it go like
450 x 1.40 = 630 + kabob = 690

According to that formula, berserk won't multiply it if you're at the food's cap, but if you're below cap, it will. If you're using something like Red Curry Bun/etc.

[Cream Soda]

hmm explain how that occurs to me? based on that forumula. I'm not seeing it lol

[Rajwa]

Egg Conservation
Can it be trio'd? If so by what Job combination? Tried searching but found minimal information.
Just tried: RDM SCH WHM, failed miserably. We just suck? or is there a better combination?

[FailureMidgard]

hmm explain how that occurs to me? based on that forumula. I'm not seeing it lol

Meat Mithkabob isn't +60 attack, it's +22% attack to a cap of +60.

If you have 200 attack, It's 200*1.22 (cap 200+60), or 244 (cap 260).
If you have Berserk up, that becomes 200*1.25*1.22 (cap 200*1.25+60), or 250*1.22 (cap 250+60), which becomes 305 (cap 310).

In that scenario, berserk made the food go from +44 attack to +55 attack.

I'm not sure how to clarify more than that example, but that's how the formula you posted reads. It is multiplicative with a cap, meaning if you are under the cap, berserk is upping the value of the food. I have no clue if this is actually correct btw.

[Moridam]

The way I understood resting and hate was that resting would put you on the hate list, but not actually give you any enmity at all. So as long as you're already on the hate list, resting would not affect your enmity. Therefore, +/- enmity does not matter while resting, and finally, a second +hMP would be better.

Ahh alright, makes sense. I'd been skimming thru Kaeko's LJ over the past few days but couldn't quite find the stuff on resting, thanks!

Yeah, trying to work on relaxing earring but those euvhi organs :\ rarely have time to try and farm them and when I do, they never seem to put out

[Andradi]

Where did the phrase "cool story bro" originate?

Pretty sure it was ye olde 4chon.

[Jimothy]

I've never seen any testing on enmity while resting, but there have been more than a couple times on BLM duoing where the other person would be afk resting and I would try to kill a mob, and while kiting it past the resting person it decided to stop and take a swing or 2. It must do something other than just simply putting you on the hate list for it to change a mobs target after doing 40% of its hp.