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  1. #841
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    Yes, but you should be fine w/o a mdt gear (~500 dmg with 6). Full time counterstance and cast :Ni right after discoid.
    i guess if you salvage without brds discoid strips shadows, never seen it happen on my runs

  2. #842
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    How much spell int-% is Aquaveil? It Says 20% on ffwiki but wiki isn't very reliable.

    Is there a formula to it like phalanx, or is it just 20% like wiki says.

  3. #843
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone View Post
    How much spell int-% is Aquaveil? It Says 20% on ffwiki but wiki isn't very reliable.

    Is there a formula to it like phalanx, or is it just 20% like wiki says.
    There has been no conclusive test to prove what % it is. Static 20% fits most observations but knowing the -exact- % or if it varies is pretty much impossible unless someone wants to do obscenely long tests.

  4. #844
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    There has been no conclusive test to prove what % it is. Static 20% fits most observations but knowing the -exact- % or if it varies is pretty much impossible unless someone wants to do obscenely long tests.
    You are an idiot, aquaveil has been tested it is 20%. there http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/73637...questions.html

    i guess if you salvage without brds discoid strips shadows, never seen it happen on my runs
    Wut ? are you saying discoid doesn't strip shadows ? try playing the game.

  5. #845
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leafar View Post
    - FFXIAH.com
    it does not check for counter til after it checks for Shadows, then Evasion...
    That's kinda the point >.> to counter when you don't have shadows while you're putting them back up.

  6. #846
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    thanks guys, tons of great info, and i greatly appreciate it. after i did some poking, the livejournal that advocated osode was a somewhat "unorthodox" player, to be polite. and yeah, our war is very well geared, really only lacking speed belt and adaberk, so i feel very comfortable playing with him, and i think he'll be able to keep up very well.

    in related news, archaic chariot refused to put out again today :3 fortunately, this was our 14th run i think, and we've really had a nice core group develop out of it. we have some trouble with LAC and brainjack, just because we're new at it and so making the fight go quickly enough to not get buttfucked by charm is something we're learning. the info here has been a great help.

  7. #847
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    Do the synth support belts from the guilds give you regular support, or advanced?

    Corselet vs Demon's Harness for drk? Just thinking of signing a harness for s&g

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    Is SE going to have an update teaser sometime soon? I'm bored.

  9. #849
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguile View Post
    Do the synth support belts from the guilds give you regular support, or advanced?
    going on my very very limited experience (i was trying synthing staves in a cloister), it would appear that the belts give advanced support. that said, i could have just had a lucky streak on the staves.

  10. #850
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    I know it's still open to debate and is not really fully understood, but the ftp bonus of gorget on weapon skill has been demonstrated pretty thoroughly on the TP=> Damage WS. For TP=> Critical hit rate WS have we decided that it grants a bonus % to critical hit rate for the first hit of the WS or just increased damage? Or is it just not known?

    I've been having really good results on RR with Kubira beads for Raging Rush when the beads put me at 119 DEX (on 8-2 so maybe Rajas will help me a bit there in replacing it?) but I like the increased crit rate on RR for things that aren't birds as well, so it's a dilemma.

    We all know parsing against yourself on WS damage only is totally skewed unless you WS at 100% exactly every time for about 1,000+ WS both ways (i.e. impossible) and multi hit gets fucked on low level mobs, so has there been any math done out with the ftp crit bonus or is it all theory at this point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    I know it's still open to debate and is not really fully understood, but the ftp bonus of gorget on weapon skill has been demonstrated pretty thoroughly on the TP=> Damage WS. For TP=> Critical hit rate WS have we decided that it grants a bonus % to critical hit rate for the first hit of the WS or just increased damage? Or is it just not known?

    I've been having really good results on RR with Kubira beads for Raging Rush when the beads put me at 119 DEX (on 8-2 so maybe Rajas will help me a bit there in replacing it?) but I like the increased crit rate on RR for things that aren't birds as well, so it's a dilemma.

    We all know parsing against yourself on WS damage only is totally skewed unless you WS at 100% exactly every time for about 1,000+ WS both ways (i.e. impossible) and multi hit gets fucked on low level mobs, so has there been any math done out with the ftp crit bonus or is it all theory at this point?
    I think the first step would be to figure out what the base critical % hit is w/o the gorget for multiple Critical Hit WSs. Not sure, but don't remember anyone reporting the critical hit rate % @ 100% TP beyond assumptions. Having said that, I would hope said testing went beyond RR and included Drakesbane as well.

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    Some numbers here for base crit rate: seaseaseaseasea - DEX/Critical hits relation data.

    For whatever reason I had it in my head that Vorpal Blade is +10% at 100% TP, but I don't know where I got that. Don't have anything else, sorry.

    NB: Read it again, those numbers are approximations. We may not have any exact data.

  13. #853
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    So assume you WS between 100-115 TP every time with RR @ Capped dex + merits we're going to be looking at 24-27% Crit rate. This seems pretty accurate to me.

    The big question that I honestly wouldn't begin to know how to test ACCURATELY is how the Gorget bonuses affects it.

    I don't like when math doesn't like me Q_Q

  14. #854
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Yes I think so, thanks.

  15. #855
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    Is there any .dat swap I can make that will shorten the JA animation of Seigan Third Eye?

    It would be nice to pop that after a Hasso'd WS without getting pizzownd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunz View Post
    Is there any .dat swap I can make that will shorten the JA animation of Seigan Third Eye?

    It would be nice to pop that after a Hasso'd WS without getting pizzownd.
    Merit point!!! and Level up!!! are the only ones I found that don't hinder movement(and don't fuck up the screen like rank ups) and I'd think if any swaps helped you.. these would be it!

  17. #857
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    Decided not to make my own thread about this, since I figured its not necessary.

    Myself and two other people (COR, COR, WHM) are interested in attempting a trio on Jailer of Faith. I have a general idea of how the fight will go, but I want to know if this is even possible? Obviously the WHM for Stona, and we'll both be subbing NIN (the CORs).

    I was thinking it'd be best to kite in Magic Defense gear, while either using Crim. Legs or Hermes Sandals.

    Basically just asking if its possible, and the difficulty of it.

  18. #858
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    Can counters be parried resulting in a normal attack? Or is my chatlog just retarded? (I can see counters, and I can see parries, can post larger screen if needed)

    Or am I just missing something else entirely? ._.

    http://i31.tinypic.com/16h1074.png

  19. #859
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    Even if I'm done with Limbus, I'm still interested in my new job (RDM) AF+1's.

    Getting Apollyon one was easy as slimes seem to drop it 90% of time.
    Now my problem is Temenos...
    The Beastmen run doesnt drop RDM on F1 and the elemental run... meh, i dont wanna melee ifrit really.
    So, has any melee/dnc ever tried the enhanced tigers floor [Temenos West]? Was it hard? doable? I have very solid SAM, MNK, NIN.

  20. #860
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    With a rare item (ie. PCC). If I sent it to my self (via the mail npc) does it still count as in my possession?

    I want to do the PCC bcnm, and wondered if just sending my PCC to my self would 'allow' it drop in the bcnm?

    I know I can send it to a mule, but just wondering if this would work, as it would be faster and easier.

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