Random Question Thread IV: ROCKY WINS

[Tsuko_Asura]

Or you could just not be terrible and do it with RDM/NINx3

[Thorny]

Or you could just not be terrible and do it with RDM/NINx3

i'd assume if they have 3 competent rdms they probably don't need to ask what they need for byakko lol

[Vendeen]

Is Ethereal Earring all that useful for PLD? I know it's good when atonement doesn't really work, but I have RDM and if atonement doesn't work I'll probably be on RDM.

As I see it now it's only really a macro item for MDT, and Oshitshadows down? Otherwise you'll be sacrificing more TP return from Brutal/Suppa.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Its nice, but I think its vastly over-glorified for tanks. If you're a soloist DRG, Ethereal all the way. Otherwise I prefer Hollow.

[Siniroth]

Could a SAM/whatever solo 5-1?

Edit: Thinking SAM/PLD (for undead killer + Holy Circle), meditate, wait on timer, pop circle and run in, WS, meditate, WS, wing, WS, meikyo, 3x WSes, hoping archmage is dead at that point

[Kyte]

As I see it now it's only really a macro item for MDT, and Oshitshadows down? Otherwise you'll be sacrificing more TP return from Brutal/Suppa.

Sadly Ethereal doesn't work like that. It only converts; there's no actual damage reduction.

[stewie]

Sadly Ethereal doesn't work like that. It only converts; there's no actual damage reduction.

MDT because if you're going to be hit with magic you'll get MP back.

[Kyte]

His statement implied that he thought it gave MDT and PDT, which is a common misconception.

[stewie]

His statement implied that he thought it gave MDT and PDT, which is a common misconception.

How did it imply that? It implied that in both cases you are going to get hit, in which you're going to get MP if you're hit. I have never heard anyone think it gave MDT and PDT.

[Kyte]

As I see it now it's only really a macro item for MDT

Like that

[stewie]

Like that

Because if you're going to get hit by magic you're going to take damage and get MP back.

[RyaWHM]

I'm still not sure what kind of stuff you're talking about, with regards to sea:
Jailer of Fortitude - Low enough hp and damage output, but pdt- makes KC useless
Jailer of Temperance - Will change out of blunt mode due to damage before it dies, probably will straight out kill drk, can't be stunned
Jailer of Faith - will slowga your drk(needs erase and haste) or straight out kill them, can't be stunned

Ix'Mnk - can't be stunned, will kill drk with melee
Ix'drk - will reraise anyway and also can't be stunned and might kill drk with melee
Ix'drg - probably can be KC zerged but i doubt drk and rdm/drk can kill phs very quickly.. and they compose the majority of the fight time so you'll end up taking longer than a blm rdm duo would

I'm sorry I keep causing confusion on this, but I wasn't talking about trying sea mobs necessarily, I was saying I don't know lowman strategies other than sea stuff... (so for exmaple the "easy 4man FL" strategy you were referring to, I'm unfamiliar with it)

Lemme try this again:

You said basically, most of that stuff that you can KC, can be done lowman without KC. If any of these lowman strategies take forever-and-a-half to carry out without KC, that alone would be worth the risk of using the not-as-safe KC method, in my opinion. Does that make sense?

I can pretty well figure out which fights wouldn't be smart overall, like even MKD final wouldn't be straightforward (there are "phases") -- what I wanted to know is whether or not there were lots of mobs resistant/immune to souleater stuff, beyond the short list I was aware of (just AV and ACP final).

You suggested maybe ZNMt4's might be resistant/immune, that's the kinda answer I'm looking for.

EDIT: Actually MKD final is a great example; even though I don't think it's worth it to use this on him, I still wanna know if he's resistant/immune.

[Vendeen]

Yea I mean like, I'd macro it in for MDT for the extra MP, obviously cap it in other slots. And I said PDT as in both -phys% dmg set as well as shield for ichi's and when shadows down etc cause I didn't feel like typing it out cause I thought I would have been pretentious.

[Starr]

How much HP does Eraser have in sky? How far can he be pulled from the book and are there any good kiting areas with no magic aggro in this range?

[Argettio]

How much HP does Eraser have in sky? How far can he be pulled from the book and are there any good kiting areas with no magic aggro in this range?

You can't get aggro when fighting the NMs afaik.

And you can't take the mob more than 20' away from the pop point without it de-spawning.

[Starr]

Oh right so I can just Gravity and kite it back and forth within 20' and it should be easy?

[Despain]

Yeah.

Can't aggro shit when fighting, so I would assume its easy to kite, unless its got Draw-In or something.

[nivlakian]

How much HP does Eraser have in sky?

It has close to 5000HP.

[Max™]

How did it imply that? It implied that in both cases you are going to get hit, in which you're going to get MP if you're hit. I have never heard anyone think it gave MDT and PDT.

First time I ever saw one, when it first came out, I immediately hoped it was straight up -3% Dmg taken, which is then converted to MP.

It's still awesome when you're being hit, but yeah, I miss my Hollow at times since my Pld doesn't get much light these days.

[Korremar]

In the odd situation where Atonement/Spirits Within isn't usable/viable, and a PLD is forced to rely on Vorpal Blade, what's the optimal WS setup for it?