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  1. #121

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    The emnity on both is negligible since both WS produce a static amount of enmity and both are very low(coronach being lower) but it doesn't really matter because it isn't like your tanks wont be able to hold hate indefinitely off you for throwing the equivalent of a dispel at the mob every 4-5 shots.

    If rng only I'd go with gun(if only for being more applicable with KC; you can't spam cannon shells w/o 100 alchemy or a good friend with it so you can stock your satchel plus, coronach for times where you want to ws at 100% mob health but don't want to tank is ftw).
    If you also have sam I'd go with bow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    Where do you see the enmity -20?
    Aftermath effect from 'Coronach' the Gun WS

    Coronach - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more

    I'm not sure how long it last (therefore how often you will have to use it) but it could be useful

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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    ok stupid me :d

    carry on

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    Thought about it and I'm betting Gun will beat Bow in DPS. Possible to get 5hit with gun while /war(and you can /war everywhere because of the enmity utilities on it). 21stp needed on gun while bow needs 33. And it seems pretty easy, too. Mekki, rajas, and rose strap already put you at 14. Then you've got a selection of ACP body, enkidu, hach legs/feet, skadi, and cobra feet.

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    Alright, so my PLD is about to hit level 75, and I have plenty of experience tanking endgame/HNMs from NIN/DRK. When it comes to NIN tanking, I know the basics and whats needed to succeed, so I have little problems actually keeping hate or tanking for that matter, especially now with Yonin.

    When it comes to PLD/NIN endgame, I know most of it pretty much, but have almost no experience on PLD/NIN tanking endgame. My question is since my PLD is going to be completely new, what gear should I be using that I can get from the AH and shit and still be good? I haven't had ANY luck geting homam whatsoever for my THF, but hopefully whenever my linkshell decides to start spamming Omega, I'll get my hands on some homam pieces.

    Also, I have a brave blade, but I'm on floor 5 of Nyzul >.>; planning on starting to go up as soon as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novalye View Post
    Is there a difference between Iron Ram Horn and Faerie Piccolo..? I've seen more BRDs use the faerie piccolo over the horn, though the horn has +4 CHR.
    Chr does absolutely nothing for buffs. Faerie piccolo can be used 24 levels sooner, works in 40/50 cap, and is cheaper on my server.

    Faerie piccolo > iron ram horn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    If rng only I'd go with gun(if only for being more applicable with KC; you can't spam cannon shells w/o 100 alchemy or a good friend with it so you can stock your satchel plus, coronach for times where you want to ws at 100% mob health but don't want to tank is ftw).
    If you also have sam I'd go with bow.
    Completely agree with this opinion. RNG only = Gun, it's awsome with Kclub and Coronach spam for near-nothing hate-wise is just win. If you EVER plan on levelling SAM / Have it now then definitely Bow no contest. I could be wrong but I'm pretty certain that Gun is the better relic for RNG for all purposes (both Kclub and shooting) due to enmity- and ability to 5-hit.

    RNG Only = Gun
    RNG + SAM = Bow
    RNG + Might level SAM someday = Bow

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    They are both insane weapons. The bow is better when ranged accuracy is critical and gun when -enmity is critical.

    Damage wise, the WS are essentially equal. Namas better WS mods and fstr2 and coronach better ftp, but overall damage is close. Spider Dan did long detailed math on this and it was super close.

    As was said can get 5/6 hit build easier on gun.

    You would typically not accumulate tp past 100 on these weapons because in most cases (every probable case) the ranged attack will do more hate than the WS. In the case of coronach in fact, its worse to hold tp instead of firing since it also reduces the hate of shots while aftermath is in effect. (Aftermath on coronach = -20 enmity)

    If you have a sam, namas is a nice option in certain conditions.

    The gun does not fire faster than the bow, but with proper snap shot merits and gear they get pretty close.

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    Was it ever found how much base attack an automaton has, or what D : # weapon it uses (any frame will do, just trying to get a decent base) or any way to find it out?

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    with sch enf. with light/drk arts active... when you cast enf. spells, they retain the Brate skill regardless if they light/drk type spells opposite of what art you have active right?

    only negative effect are that you suffer cast/cost penalties & can't use arts JAs with the spell of the opposing active art, correct?

    was referring to drk arts and slow/para & light arts grav/bind

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    Quote Originally Posted by liggy 0 View Post
    with sch enf. with light/drk arts active... when you cast enf. spells, they retain the Brate skill regardless if they light/drk type spells opposite of what art you have active right?

    only negative effect are that you suffer cast/cost penalties & can't use arts JAs with the spell of the opposing active art, correct?

    was referring to drk arts and slow/para & light arts grav/bind
    Correct, but remember that your enfeebling gear (Body/Legs) must correspond with the correct arts.

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    Anyone know if there have been monks able to pull off mnk/sam with a staff and actually out DD or come close to that of HTH?

    I could see it being possible with some of the staves like kinkobo and etc, but I've never seen it put into the play. Combined with hasso and other sam traits, along with the new grips, would this work?

    Or is the gap between staves and HTH just to big? I'd just love to see a mnk/sam 2 hour with a staff hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urat View Post
    Anyone know if there have been monks able to pull off mnk/sam with a staff and actually out DD or come close to that of HTH?

    I could see it being possible with some of the staves like kinkobo and etc, but I've never seen it put into the play. Combined with hasso and other sam traits, along with the new grips, would this work?

    Or is the gap between staves and HTH just to big? I'd just love to see a mnk/sam 2 hour with a staff hahaha.
    I'd say the diff is too big. Only B+ skill, DpS is horrible and all the staff ws' suck at 100% tp

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    If you can find a Mekki Shaki/Kinkobo-esque staff that deals Piercing damage, sure!

    Edit: And give Mnk access to a 5-hit Str/Dex mod Staff WS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    I'd say the diff is too big. Only B+ skill, DpS is horrible and all the staff ws' suck at 100% tp
    This was pretty much what I was thinking. Thanks

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    Am I going to die a horrible, horrible death trying to solo Ix'grah on lightsday for CoP8-2 as rdm/whm?

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    One question guys if u lose astral candescence and recover it ? how many time it needs to wait for attack again?

    Because in alex.. we lost it 2 days ago... and recovered 1 day ago.... and today is lost again.....

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    I accidentally clicked a somepage link from google today (closed it immediately), I have firefox with noscript and ABP plus avast and a modified host file that blocks known bad sites. Should I even worry about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    I'd say the diff is too big. Only B+ skill, DpS is horrible and all the staff ws' suck at 100% tp
    skill wont matter (with no merit) 2handed bonus make up for it:

    full usu hume +hollow+rajas+BB+cuch:94dex 100str
    accu: 276*.9+20+94/2=315 \ 250*.9+20+94*3/4=315
    attack: 276+100/2=326 \ 250+100*3/4=325

    no usu mnk: staff will have higher acc (BH) but lower attack

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