Upcoming CPUs

[Arkanna]

Good, pick up a 920 and raep. The LGA1156 platform is lower performance.

^ This, plus the future upgrade path for LGA1366 looks shinier than the one for LGA1156.

[Olo401]

Good, pick up a 920 and raep. The LGA1156 platform is lower performance.

Not really - the only differences between an i7 on 1156 instead of 1366 are the ability to run memory tri-channel (you can still run DDR3 in dual) and the ability to run more than one video card at 16x (two cards will run at 8x each). You won't need either of these features anytime soon unless you're a serious gotta-have-it user or you want to do folding@home. On the other hand, with the new processors you gain serious power savings (about 50w between the more efficient design and not having a Northbridge chip on the mobo) and you can run a higher stock memory speed (1333 instead of 1066). Either way will give you the same performance on games today and probably for the next couple years without a hitch.

Edit: Almost forgot - Xeons and Gulftown (Core i9) will be on 1366 only, so the upgrade path there is an advantage.

[Solefald]

Right, Anandtech even made note of the fact that triple-channel DDR3 made no difference in benchmark results. The only practical benefit to LGA1366 now, is having 2-3 16x PCIe 2.0 lanes for those people who absolutely need to run x3/x4/x6 GPU configurations, and for servers and high-end workstations.

[mootsfox]

Not really - the only differences between an i7 on 1156 instead of 1366 are the ability to run memory tri-channel (you can still run DDR3 in dual) and the ability to run more than one video card at 16x (two cards will run at 8x each). You won't need either of these features anytime soon unless you're a serious gotta-have-it user or you want to do folding@home. On the other hand, with the new processors you gain serious power savings (about 50w between the more efficient design and not having a Northbridge chip on the mobo) and you can run a higher stock memory speed (1333 instead of 1066). Either way will give you the same performance on games today and probably for the next couple years without a hitch.

Edit: Almost forgot - Xeons and Gulftown (Core i9) will be on 1366 only, so the upgrade path there is an advantage.

Well, for the PCI-e 2.0 lanes, FaH doesn't require much, 4x is enough. The amount of video card to CPU chatting is minor compared to a game.

And in games, most cards will max out a 8x 2.0 slot.

Anyways, LGA1156 is mid-range, though it's being released at higher-end pricing, and too many people are claiming it's the new top from Intel. Until the pricing comes down it's not a better value.

[SamanosukeShiva]

i heard i9 6core cpu? isnt that abit of a waste since most program wont use all the cores?

[Minions]

i heard i9 6core cpu? isnt that abit of a waste since most program wont use all the cores?

Its for servers tbh, some people are retarded and use them for home pc's but there's really no point.

[Amastacia]

I gotta say, Core i7-860 is lookin' like money for my next upgrade/rebuild.

Save on some of the platform costs associated with Bloomfield, and spend less than an i7-920 for a chip that's very possibly as good or better in a gaming PC (especially since Lynnfields overclock basically the same as Bloomfields).

The i7-750 looks like a hell of a good mid-range chip, it's priced competitively with Phenom II and smokes the latter handily. Going to make life tough for AMD and force prices down (yay!).

[SamanosukeShiva]

so, my new evga x58 mobo comes with e-leet OC utility, should I still OC from BIOS or can I use the OC ultil.?

going to OC i7 920 btw

[Amastacia]

I always overclock from BIOS. Windows utilities tend to be less predictable.

[mootsfox]

Its for servers tbh, some people are retarded and use them for home pc's but there's really no point.

Speak for yourself sir.

Those of us who use our computers for more than FFXI and email/websurfing enjoy the extra speed.

[Blubbartron]

It's also rather short-sighted to claim that any upgrade to computer hardware is a "waste." Software engineering and hardware engineering are in a constant chicken and egg battle. Software is made that requires much more sophisticated hardware (crysis), so said hardware is developed. Sometimes sophisticated hardware (multi-core processors, specifically) is developed without much immediate benefit in the software world. Then software is later made to take advantage of it. Parallel processing is the future, and anything that can be made to take advantage of 2 or 4 cores can be easily adjusted to take advantage of 6, 8, and so on.

[Minions]

Speak for yourself sir.

Those of us who use our computers for more than FFXI and email/websurfing enjoy the extra speed.

Grats on your extra speed during winrar.

[Solefald]

It's also rather short-sighted to claim that any upgrade to computer hardware is a "waste." Software engineering and hardware engineering are in a constant chicken and egg battle. Software is made that requires much more sophisticated hardware (crysis), so said hardware is developed. Sometimes sophisticated hardware (multi-core processors, specifically) is developed without much immediate benefit in the software world. Then software is later made to take advantage of it. Parallel processing is the future, and anything that can be made to take advantage of 2 or 4 cores can be easily adjusted to take advantage of 6, 8, and so on.

It is a waste if you're buying cutting edge hardware for 2-3x the price of mainstream stuff, and not getting 2-3x the performance out of it.

[mootsfox]

Grats on your extra speed during winrar.

While using Autodesk, Photoshop and lightroom, 150+ tabbed windows in firefox, ripping a CD, encoding media, and yes even Winrar at the same fucking time, yes this 8 threaded monster @ 4.0GHz and 12GB of RAM is welcome.

Not everyone uses their PC for the same shit, don't assume I buy this stuff to play Windows solitaire, k?

It is a waste if you're buying cutting edge hardware for 2-3x the price of mainstream stuff, and not getting 2-3x the performance out of it.

I find staying about 6 months behind the curve and selling/upgrading within 18 months of the original release provides the best price/performance ratios. Anything before 6 months and you are generally paying release prices, and after 18 months your stuff is barely sellable/not valuable anymore.

[Minions]

While using Autodesk, Photoshop and lightroom, 150+ tabbed windows in firefox, ripping a CD, encoding media, and yes even Winrar at the same fucking time, yes this 8 threaded monster @ 4.0GHz and 12GB of RAM is welcome.

Not everyone uses their PC for the same shit, don't assume I buy this stuff to play Windows solitaire, k?



I find staying about 6 months behind the curve and selling/upgrading within 18 months of the original release provides the best price/performance ratios. Anything before 6 months and you are generally paying release prices, and after 18 months your stuff is barely sellable/not valuable anymore.

i heard i9 6core cpu? isnt that abit of a waste since most program wont use all the cores?

^ Original quote
Anyone that is that disorganized needs some help. I9 = 6 cores = 12 threads. You just said 8 threads, which means you are using a quad core... which is not an I9. I quoted someone talking about using a i9 processor on a home pc. I'd honestly love to see you max out 12 threads doing all the the above at the same time.


I stand by my statement. Paying the amount they will be asking for the i9 cpu just to put it in a desktop is a waste.