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    What's Better?

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    Rocl:To avoid the unecessary creation of thousands of simple gear comparison threads, we'll attempt to make this your generic gear question thread. If it doesn't work, I blame Suiram. If it does work, all credit goes to me. So let us begin with the OP's question:


    Blau Dolch or Stylet??
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    Heca head or Voyager's salet (or something else) for unstacked Sneak Attack? I hear I want to stay away from the slow+ on unstacked SA.
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    why do you keep remaking this thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaddix View Post
    why do you keep remaking this thread
    Number of pages, ect
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodou
    I think this is true if you can get your racc up to or above 91.8% with the af+1 on. If your racc is lower than that while wearing the af+1, then skotes provide more damage since its racc bonus > potential extra ranged shot. The farther below the cap you are while wearing af+1, the more skotes is better.

    At least that's what my math says.
    May I see your math because I have it more around 75/80% racc. Any higher and it really starts leaning towards AF+1 more.

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    Just to clarify on the Barrage + AF+1 issue in last thread, am I mistaken in thinking the AF+1 hands only needs to be equipped when using the ability? Not through the whole thing?

    I don't have anything better yet so I'm fulltiming them atm (need the abj or S.kote for better) so I can't tell myself right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniroth View Post
    Just to clarify on the Barrage + AF+1 issue in last thread, am I mistaken in thinking the AF+1 hands only needs to be equipped when using the ability? Not through the whole thing?

    I don't have anything better yet so I'm fulltiming them atm (need the abj or S.kote for better) so I can't tell myself right now
    You need to /ra with them equipped to get the 7th shot in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Pretty sure I know the answer, but is the Champion's Galea augmented with STR+6/Haste+2/WS Accuracy+15 is going to be better than the orc helm from SHNM? Using it as a WS piece on SAM.
    Im fairly sure with the ACC+ 1hit WSs get SCNM helm would be slightly better than that Galea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aero View Post
    You need to /ra with them equipped to get the 7th shot in.
    Ah, I wasn't sure, it said on otherwiki that it was just when ability was used but lolotherwiki, glad to finally know
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    If you're using it for a WS piece on SAM, then STR+4 AGI+4 WS Acc+15 WS Damage+2% will far and away outperform STR+6 or STR+6 Attack+8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Pretty sure I know the answer, but is the Champion's Galea augmented with STR+6/Haste+2/WS Accuracy+15 is going to be better than the orc helm from SHNM? Using it as a WS piece on SAM.
    That Galea is going to be better than the Orc Helm for SAM WS.
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    Yes. 4str and 2% ws dmg will outperform every single head piece there is for sam.
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    4 STR +2% WS damage on an average Gekko of 1000 is +20 damage, +2 STR and no WS bonus is about 7 damage.
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    Had asked this a while back and I only got one response, but while we're on the subject, would str4 ws damage 2% beat gnadbhod's for kaiten?
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    I doubt gnad would beat galea for even kaiten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kouu View Post
    Had asked this a while back and I only got one response, but while we're on the subject, would str4 was damage 2% beat gnadbhod's for kaiten?
    Depends on the target, I would imagine. The harder it becomes level/def wise, the better Gnadbhod's Helm is going to be compared to Champion's Galea. It's probably going to boil down to swapping them around about where you use Osode vs Haub+1/Byrnie+1 on Gekko.

    The math behind this is that 9.5 Attack becomes more valuable as the enemy becomes higher level/higher def. Let's use the ubiquitous Greater Colibri as an example;

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    # Level 81: Defense 322, Evasion 334, VIT 67, AGI 67
    # Level 82: Defense 327, Evasion 339, VIT 67, AGI 67
    Let's say you have 450 attack before in both cases and just call it 10 Attack.

    Level 81
    cRatio before: 450/322 - (0.05 * 6) = 1.09
    cRatio after: 460/322 - (0.05 * 6) = 1.12
    Increase: 0.03/1.09 = 2.7%.

    Level 82
    cRatio before: 450/327 - (0.05 * 7) = 1.02
    cRatio after: 460/327 - (0.05 * 7) = 1.05
    Increase: 0.03/1.02 = 2.9%.

    So yeah, anything above merit level (since you should have much higher than 450 Attack there after buffs) and 9.5attack should be better than 2% WS damage assuming no Attack boost and assuming the 2% WS damage is a simple static +2%.

    This is also purely thinking about the Attack, not considering STR's effect on fSTR/WSC which will push Gnadbohd's Helm even more firmly into the lead.

    Heca head or Voyager's salet (or something else) for unstacked Sneak Attack? I hear I want to stay away from the slow+ on unstacked SA.
    The only danger of entirely gearing like this is that it works best in situations where melee DoT is very important (squishier mobs) and also that it is not always optimal to have a weaker SA (if you won't get another attack round in before the mob is dead for instance); if you want to be perfect, have two sets.

    At any rate, Hecatomb Cap is significantly stronger than Voyager's Sallet for soloSA so I'd be wary giving it up.
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    Tatami Shield or Viking Shield for Thf/War on HNM's using Mandalic Stab/Shark Bite?

    Thanks in advance.
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    I'd go with Viking.
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    Mirke for THF ATT+10/DW+3 or ACC+10/DW+3 or ACC/ATT?
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