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    Quote Originally Posted by Tik View Post
    Erlking's Kheten
    DMG: 91 Delay: 504

    Compare and contrast augments:
    DMG+6, Double Attack+2
    Elemental Enspell Attribute+10~20
    or
    DMG+6, STR+5, Double Attack+2
    Obviously these are perfect, however, which would you choose in the event it came to these, or at the very least, close?
    Same question, never got an answer.

    And Kubira beads, wtfh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    My WS Calc might be bugged at the moment (Found out I didn't set it up in a "nice" way for Non-Multi-Hit/Crit WS), but it's coming up with Morrigans as doing more damage, which is kind of surprising because if I did this right and assuming full merits (200 + (.85*.9) + 10 [Trait] + 16% [Sushi] + 40 [Gear]), you're at 81.5% ACC. Again, might be buggy at the moment, but someone can look this over and maybe help confirm.
    FFXICalc says he's got 408 ACC with Crab Sushi, 422 with Sole+1 (since you said a 16% sushi). In other words, capped at birds and most Mamools. That's probably why Morrigan's Slops won.

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    According to Calculator I got 87.5% acc on WS before food.
    That doesn't Include aftermath effect.
    Which at bird camp probably in my best interest to keep L1 up and just eat meat.

    So if my acc is capped then +10 int does better then +4 Dex +1 str +5 store TP ?

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    Definitely.

    EDIT: Dammit, Store TP. Depends on if it changes your x-hit, but that 5 STP on WS alone is not dropping a hit if you don't have some kind of x-hit setup that's very close to dropping a hit to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobsonofgod View Post
    According to Calculator I got 87.5% acc on WS before food.
    That doesn't Include aftermath effect.
    Which at bird camp probably in my best interest to keep L1 up and just eat meat.

    So if my acc is capped then +10 int does better then +4 Dex +1 str +5 store TP ?
    I just realized I forgot to add in the DEX ACC, so the ACC portion was off. As for the sTP, I calculated it using Dual Wield = 20% (Assuming Earring), and came up with 5.1TP/Hit v 5.3TP/hit. If Wiki is correct, you use Perdu/Koggel, and you gain the benefit of both swings (For a total of either 10.2 or 10.6 TP from the WS), then the extra sTP from the Enkidu brings you from needing 18 hits to 17 hits. Note that unless you get a DA, it looks like you'll need the same amount of swings anyways to reach 100% TP. So, I doubt that is going to do much for you.

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    Assuming 5.1 TP/hit in TP phase, I'm not even seeing 5 more STP on WS dropping him to 17 hits.

    Slops: 5.1*18+5.1*2=102

    Enkidu's:

    5.1*17+5.4*2=97.5

    5.1*18+5.4*2=102.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    If Wiki is correct, you use Perdu/Koggel
    Tizona / Perdu.
    When I Finally get one I'll sub Koggs on the mobs that count / when I hold TP higher then 100%.
    With no store TP Tizona/Perdu with suppa is 5.0 TP a hit.
    Rajas and Brutal bring it down to 5.3TP (19 swings)
    And looking like i would need +6 Store TP to bring it down to 18 Swings

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    You're definitely not shaving a hit off on WS then. Incidentally, you could move to a 17-hit by wearing Rajas during TP but it's an odd number of hits so the impact would be minimal between random whiffs, DA, and offhand hits. Rajas during WS has no effect on x-hit number regardless of Enkidu's Leggings, whether worn during TP phase or not.

    Assuming you've had the chance to play around with it a decent amount, how do you feel about Tizona/Perdu as opposed to your previous weapon setup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    Assuming 5.1 TP/hit in TP phase, I'm not even seeing 5 more STP on WS dropping him to 17 hits.

    Slops: 5.1*18+5.1*2=102

    Enkidu's:

    5.1*17+5.4*2=97.5

    5.1*18+5.4*2=102.6
    Wasn't sure what his TP set was, so I just assumed it was the same sTP.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobsonofgod View Post
    Tizona / Perdu.
    When I Finally get one I'll sub Koggs on the mobs that count / when I hold TP higher then 100%.
    With no store TP Tizona/Perdu with suppa is 5.0 TP a hit.
    [No Enkidu] (5*1.05) = 5.25*2 = 10.5
    [Enkidu] (5*1.1) = 5.5*2 = 11

    [TP you need to get to 100 without Enkidu] = (100-10.5) = 89.5
    [TP you need to get to 100 with Enkidu] = (100-11) = 89

    I'll go with Night's suggestion and calculate it without the sTP since BLU should melee in Homam anyways.

    [No Enkidu for WS] (89.5/5.25) = 17.047... (Round up to 18)
    [Enkidu for WS] (89/5.25) = 16.95... (Round up to 17)

    Like I said earlier, the 17th/18th hit should occur on the same round unless you manage to DA anyways. Thus, it doesn't appear that you'll benefit from WSing in Enkidu sTP wise. Thus, it appears Morrigan's legs still make the better WS piece.

    Edit: Didn't see the Brutal Earring part, just used theassumed 5sTP from your last post. In that case, both sets will need 17 hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    Assuming you've had the chance to play around with it a decent amount, how do you feel about Tizona/Perdu as opposed to your previous weapon setup?
    I haven't had to much time to dick around with. (1 merit party couple of campaigns 2 besiedges)

    Over all I'm pretty happy with the results so far, Koggels been givign me the shaft but i'm hoping to get that pretty soon. Once I do I'll post my gears on the other thread.

    Unfortunately I don't parce so I cant tell as of yet how well I perform over other blues. or even other sword choices >.<
    (I do TP In Rajas though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tik View Post
    And Kubira beads, wtfh?
    4 STR is likely to beat 7 attack (especially when using Fort Axe, but also for higher DMG G.Axes). It's basically 1 fSTR vs. the pDIF increase of 4 attack. And there's always the chance the DEX increases your critical hitrate, which is also a more effective way of increasing average pDIF usually. Again, and I'll stress on this, it only goes for capped ACC pre-neck (or if you need 3 or less more ACC to cap, the DEX will give you this).

    Summarizing, for TPing:

    Capped ACC: Kubira beads
    Uncapped ACC: Ancient torque
    There's very few situations where torques will win: you'd need to be about 3% hitrate shy of cap, and not much more or less.
    Note: obviously doesn't go for Love and Justice torques. Those are actually good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinryuu View Post

    Capped ACC: Kubira beads
    Uncapped ACC: Ancient torque
    There's very few situations where torques will win: you'd need to be about 3% hitrate shy of cap, and not much more or less.
    Note: obviously doesn't go for Love and Justice torques. Those are actually good.
    And faith torque for pup

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    Aye, same w/ MNK depending on H2H merits.

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    What are the minimum augments I need on Dweomer Scythe to beat Perdu?

    And legs options for DRK please if you don't have homam yet.

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    For King's Justice/Raging Rush, which body's better?:

    Hauberk vs Hecatomb vs Aurum.

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    Justice Torque VS Ancient Torque will full GKT merits and Bushinomimi, eating meat.

    Head: Ace´s Helm
    Weapon: Hagun
    Sub: Pole Grip
    Ammo: Black Tathlum
    Body: Haubergeon+1
    Hands: Dusk Gloves
    Ear1: Bushinomimi
    Ear2: Brutal Earring
    Ring1: Raja's Ring
    Ring2: Sniper's Ring+1
    Back: Cuchulain's Mantle
    Waist: Swift Belt
    Legs: Byakko's Haidate
    Feet: Usukane Sune-Ate

    Leaning towards Ancient Torque but then again I´m not exactly a FFXI math person. So any proper math on it would be greatly appreciated. Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virg View Post
    Justice Torque VS Ancient Torque will full GKT merits and Bushinomimi, eating meat.

    Head: Ace´s Helm
    Weapon: Hagun
    Sub: Pole Grip
    Ammo: Black Tathlum
    Body: Haubergeon+1
    Hands: Dusk Gloves
    Ear1: Bushinomimi
    Ear2: Brutal Earring
    Ring1: Raja's Ring
    Ring2: Sniper's Ring+1
    Back: Cuchulain's Mantle
    Waist: Swift Belt
    Legs: Byakko's Haidate
    Feet: Usukane Sune-Ate

    Leaning towards Ancient Torque but then again I´m not exactly a FFXI math person. So any proper math on it would be greatly appreciated. Thx
    Depends on target. If you can cap acc with Ancient Torque and eat meat whereas Justice would leave you under by more than ~2acc, then Ancient will win.
    If you are going to use a Pizza anyway and will cap with Justice, then Justice wins.

    No single answer, though you have a decent amount of accuracy on gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    Depends on target. If you can cap acc with Ancient Torque and eat meat whereas Justice would leave you under by more than ~2acc, then Ancient will win.
    If you are going to use a Pizza anyway and will cap with Justice, then Justice wins.

    No single answer, though you have a decent amount of accuracy on gear.
    Yeah don't really care about merit pt situations. HNMs is what I´m doing so basically NH, Ix etc are of interst to me. Also, I never eat Pizza on SAM. Ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virg View Post
    Yeah don't really care about merit pt situations. HNMs is what I´m doing so basically NH, Ix etc are of interst to me. Also, I never eat Pizza on SAM. Ever.
    Ix...you stay in and melee full time?
    And why don't you eat pizza? If you're accuracy is under 90% on something, it's basically flat out better.

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