What's Better?

[Shinryuu]

For SAM sushi is probably better than pizza if you need more than pizza's 11(?)% ACC to cap hitrate. From there it goes to pizza to real attack food. Keep in mind SAM has a) a high WS/TP ratio and b) hardly needs (sometimes a bit, sometimes none at all) attack for WS.

[Virg]

Ix...you stay in and melee full time?
And why don't you eat pizza? If you're accuracy is under 90% on something, it's basically flat out better.

Yeah fulltime melee on Ix. And I just can't really be convinced to eat pizza on SAM. Call me retarded for it but I´d hate me for eating pizza on SAM. Red Curry is my one and only love.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Why would you be so adamant about curry on a job that has so little to gain from it?

[FailureMidgard]

For SAM sushi is probably better than pizza if you need more than pizza's 11(?)% ACC to cap hitrate. From there it goes to pizza to real attack food. Keep in mind SAM has a) a high WS/TP ratio and b) hardly needs (sometimes a bit, sometimes none at all) attack for WS.

This. Capping accuracy is "more important" for sam than virtually any other DD because of how much dmg is (near) attack capped. Pizza is really good...

Yeah fulltime melee on Ix. And I just can't really be convinced to eat pizza on SAM. Call me retarded for it but I´d hate me for eating pizza on SAM. Red Curry is my one and only love.

I think Ix has pretty low evasion compared to other things? I could be wrong though...but even when you say you don't care about merits or something, you have to to some degree. Einherjar is meriting, dynamis is meriting, limbus is meriting. And all 3 of those have different mobs with different evasion values/etc also.

Anyway, even on HNM stuff, different targets have different evasion values/etc...should just parse different NMs, see where your accuracy is, and should really consider something other than meat at times if your acc isn't over 90%.

[Tsuko_Asura]

I'm fairly certain Ixion has ~420 or so evasion

[Virg]

Thx for the input guess I´ll have to run some parses to see where my acc sits at let´s say NH and IX for example. Will consider pizza if I happen to sit below 90% which I surely hope I don´t.

[Virg]

Why would you be so adamant about curry on a job that has so little to gain from it?

Sorry I´m a fan of big digits on my WSs...

[Tsuko_Asura]

Like I said, you're gaining next to nothing from eating meat. Sure, your damage on the way to 100 TP is going up slightly, but you're also swinging a pathetically poor DPS weapon, so attempting to salvage any real damage over time is fairly pointless. And as we all know, attack is doing very, very little for Gekko.

[Virg]

Like I said, you're gaining next to nothing from eating meat. Sure, your damage on the way to 100 TP is going up slightly, but you're also swinging a pathetically poor DPS weapon, so attempting to salvage any real damage over time is fairly pointless. And as we all know, attack is doing very, very little for Gekko.

1 more STR than Coeurl Sub which i used before Red Curry...and 1 more STR is 1 more STR.
Also obviously 7 more STR than pizza.

[pchan]

1 more STR than Coeurl Sub which i used before Red Curry...and 1 more STR is 1 more STR.
Also obviously 7 more STR than pizza.

1 more haste (turban)

[Wolfknight]

For King's Justice/Raging Rush, which body's better?:

Hauberk vs Hecatomb vs Aurum.

not war but for Raging Rush assuming Aurum enough acc to cap goes:
Aurum > Hauberk > Heca, since dex = higher crit rate = higher avg, if need hauberk's acc just use it.

For KJ it would be heca or Hauberk depending on exact acc% and att, but I think heca would be better with the large amount of str on it.

[OgriBones]

I tend to use Hauberk +1 for RR and HEca for KJ as it has a tad less ACC then Hauberk +1 however twice the STR and snice KJ has a 50% STR Mod feel it works best i could be wrong tho.

[Virg]

1 more haste (turban)

This aint no merit situation so fuck your 1 more haste over 7acc.

[FailureMidgard]

This aint no merit situation so fuck your 1 more haste over 7acc.

As stupid as pchan is, it's not 1 more haste over 7acc, it's 1 more haste and X accuracy over 7 str on your WS.

Haste is -not- a merit stat. The math done on these forums is -not- for merit parties only. Yes, things will change a little bit on HNM, certain stats will be worth more, and others less. Sadly for you, haste is one of those stats that actually won't change, and if anything quite possibly gains value on HNM due to no target switching. Yes, accuracy suddenly becomes worth more, which is why *gasp* people are suggesting pizza.

[pchan]

This aint no merit situation so fuck your 1 more haste over 7acc.

I don't get it. You prefer 7 acc over 1 haste but when it comes to food you prefer attack over accuracy ? So for you attack > acc > haste while in reality it's the other way around.

[Virg]

I don't get it. You prefer 7 acc over 1 haste but when it comes to food you prefer attack over accuracy ? So for you attack > acc > haste while in reality it's the other way around.

You seem to not really get my point. Let me try to explain as good as I possibly can given the fact that english is not my first language. You suggest using Turban eating Pizza? Well I´d gain 1% Haste and X accuracy from Pizza. But I´d loose 7str and X attack for my WSs (though attack doesn't really matter that much for Y/G/K which makes pizza even more useless for WSs). So basically my WS dmg would go down by X-dmg since Y/G/K is still a 75% str mod. Given the fact that let´s say NH or Ix for example never takes us any longer than around 15-20 minutes to kill, I can´t see how the 1% Haste from Turban and the X accuracy from Pizza increases my WS frequency by an amount that the total dmg done from WSs with Pizza would equal out or even top the total dmg done using Red Curry.
Hope my point came across.

[Cream Soda]

Would you mind telling me how much str you have for ws, prior to food.

[Knyghtmayre]

Like I said, you're gaining next to nothing from eating meat. Sure, your damage on the way to 100 TP is going up slightly, but you're also swinging a pathetically poor DPS weapon, so attempting to salvage any real damage over time is fairly pointless. And as we all know, attack is doing very, very little for Gekko.

Actually, on HNMs, attack goes a very long way for YGK. Ixion/Khim/Cerb not so much (but you're still not at the attack cap with their defense with just Pizza), but Faf/Nid/Tiamat and most other things that have higher defense than merit mobs will require much more attack to hit the cap. If you're subbing THF (and can SA) then it matters much less, though and pizza works fine.

[pchan]

No I don't prefer attack over accuracy when it comes to WS. I prefer str and attack over accuracy and attack on my WS. Or did I miss SE changing Y/G/K mods? Don't think so.

You are arguing against maths that have been beaten do death. Potentially +20% hitrate, 1 haste will beat out +100 attack and 7 str because it results in more weapon skills.

[Virg]

You are arguing against maths that have been beaten do death. Potentially +20% hitrate, 1 haste will beat out +100 attack and 7 str because it results in more weapon skills.

Sorry check my post again, had to edit it to clear out my point.