What's Better?

[Vendeen]

Brutal or Hollow for atonement spam on PLD.

[Cream Soda]

If your hitrate is over 40% brutal, under 40% use hollow.

Brutal is 5% da, which is a 5% increase in tp gain (assuming you aren't wearing any other DA gear).
2% hitrate at 40% hitrate is a 5% increase. Under 40 is gonna be higher, above 40 is gonna be lower.

[Nishida]

I agree with your point (It's likely that he needs ACC), I was just curious about the rest of his gear since I've yet to hear about caps on sushi, so his gear might affect the amount of ACC he receives from sushi.

In all honesty I'm more interested in SAM than BLU, but let me get some numbers real fast..

SAM: Dex 66+14, 32 Acc, 293 GKT skill (Bushi) -- Yellow Curry Bun

BLU: Dex: 60+14, 33 Acc, 269 Sword skill (w/ spells) -- Yellow Curry Bun (I assume I should use sushi instead? Was eating atk food for sword DoT, but meh..)

[Cream Soda]

Not sure how important the 5 str 5 dex of sole is for your spells, but the best of both worlds DoT and spells is gonna be pizza+1, imo

[Nightfyre]

Sushi vs Pizza basically works out the same for BLU as straight melee; do you need the extra accuracy from sushi or not? Sushi has some extra benefit with BLU since DoT is split, but that's about it. Absolute best case scenario for Sole Sushi as spell mods go gives you 2 base D from fSTR and 1-2 more from WSC depending on the spell.

[jimbobsonofgod]

In all honesty I'm more interested in SAM than BLU, but let me get some numbers real fast..

SAM: Dex 66+14, 32 Acc, 293 GKT skill (Bushi) -- Yellow Curry Bun

BLU: Dex: 60+14, 33 Acc, 269 Sword skill (w/ spells) -- Yellow Curry Bun (I assume I should use sushi instead? Was eating atk food for sword DoT, but meh..)

Welp according to calcuator your sam acc is 375.7
and your blu acc is 363.7 (with the acc trait)

and most people shoot for 400.

So jim says " stop eatting yellow curry or unsuck the acc in your gear".

[seiji]

If your hitrate is over 40% brutal, under 40% use hollow.

Brutal is 5% da, which is a 5% increase in tp gain (assuming you aren't wearing any other DA gear).
2% hitrate at 40% hitrate is a 5% increase. Under 40 is gonna be higher, above 40 is gonna be lower.

use both when shadows up?

same with joyeuse?

[Jojojo]

When I merit I am 2boxing WAR and COR 99% of the time and retards still fucking tell me I am wrong for using Fighter's over Chaos when there is no DRK in the PT, how could it possibly be better if you include the increased WS frequency and DoT?

Thank you.

[Nishida]

Welp according to calcuator your sam acc is 375.7
and your blu acc is 363.7 (with the acc trait)

and most people shoot for 400.

So jim says " stop eatting yellow curry or unsuck the acc in your gear".

So with 2 more gkt merits and pizza I'll be at 417 acc on sam, right?

[Nightfyre]

So with 2 more gkt merits and pizza I'll be at 417 acc on sam, right?

377*.1+377=414

[Argettio]

377*.1+377=414

2 more GKT merits = 4 more skill = 3.6 more accuracy = 379.3 total accuracy

379.3*1.1 = 417.23

[Nightfyre]

2 more GKT merits = 4 more skill = 3.6 more accuracy = 379.3 total accuracy

379.3*1.1 = 417.23

Derp, I shouldn't be doing math over breakfast. Back to homework.

[Cream Soda]

use both when shadows up?

same with joyeuse?

Nah, I'm no pld so Joytoy wasn't the first thing to pop in my mind at 2am. you'd have to get one of the probability guys out here for that.

[Nightfyre]

Nah, I'm no pld so Joytoy wasn't the first thing to pop in my mind at 2am. you'd have to get one of the probability guys out here for that.

45% DA on Joyeuse means Brutal only contributes 2.75% DA due to overlap. Both is probably still the right answer, though if you have to choose one use Brutal above 72% hitrate and Hollow below.

[midguardian]

Can someone give me the average Fighter's Roll (w/ WAR) double attack proc rate? It's hard to calculate but at least assuming WAR Commodore hat doesn't have to be calculated in. Assume 5/5 Snake Eye, Snake Eye being used for Fighter's 50% of the time for simplicity.

Chaos Roll:

Rolling Strategy: Hold on 4,7,9,10 and 11. Snake eye on 3 and 8.

Expected Result: Atk. Bonus = +21%, Snake Eye used 34% of time and 4% Bust chance.

Sam Roll:

Rolling Strategy: Hold on 2,7,8,9,10 and 11. Snake eye on 1.

Expected Result: STP = +25 (minimum of +16), Snake Eye used 17% of time and 4% Bust chance.

Fighter's Roll:

Rolling Strategy: Hold on 5,7,8,10 and 11. Snake eye on 4 and 9.

Expected Result: DA = +10%, Snake Eye used 35% of time and 4% Bust chance.

General Note: Job bonus is not included for any of these. If Job bonus is present, then add +10 for Chaos/Sam and +6% for Fighter's, according to Wiki. Rolling strategy is fairly conservative, but makes heavy use of Snake Eye. In particular, if you want a minimum STP bonus of greater than +16 (without Sam job bonus) then you can adjust your rolling strategy accordingly.

Samurai roll is nice for Rangers, increasing skillchain opportunities and doesn't increase mob TP.

[Shinryuu]

Exactly what I was looking for, thanks.

[Fiendishone]

Ranger WS macro. Scout's Belt or Buccaneer's Belt. Discuss.

[Starr]

VXZ said Scout's will always do more damage back when Bucaneer's was released.

[Fiendishone]

VXZ said Scout's will always do more damage back when Bucaneer's was released.

Kinda thought so but wasn't 100% sure, since I know the Buccaneer's lacks the RATT that the Scout's Belt has.

[Talint]

VXZ said Scout's will always do more damage back when Bucaneer's was released.

5AGI/+7R.Attack beats out +4STR for WSing? Really?