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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkdoom
    Also, neckwise would Chiv Chains 3STR beat out the extra 1.8acc & 6.3 attack on Fortitude torque?
    No.

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    Didn't think so, thank you.

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    Whats a good TP Build for a 64MNK? Right now i have

    TM.+2/None/None/SmrtGrnde
    Empress/Chiv/Merm/Merm
    Scorpion/Horo/Rajas/Jaeg
    Ame+1/Brown/Rep.Sub/Seir.Hab.

    I can think of, Voyager, Och.Kote, Snp/tor ring... Tiphia? anything i'm missing?

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    Here's a question for the SAMs.
    In what situation or situations is using oni+rana preferable to hagun+ygk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbrock View Post
    Here's a question for the SAMs.
    In what situation or situations is using oni+rana preferable to hagun+ygk?
    Any situation where Rana is gonna > y/g/k, do yourself a favor and swap to polearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Whats a good TP Build for a 64MNK? Right now i have

    TM.+2/None/None/SmrtGrnde
    Empress/Chiv/Merm/Merm
    Scorpion/Horo/Rajas/Jaeg
    Ame+1/Brown/Rep.Sub/Seir.Hab.

    I can think of, Voyager, Och.Kote, Snp/tor ring... Tiphia? anything i'm missing?
    Pcc
    Strike Subligar
    Fuma
    and you covered the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkdoom View Post
    For Raging Rush would Askar Zucchetto pushing me from 109 to 113 DEX be better than Adaman Celata's 5acc and 8 attack?

    Also, neckwise would Chiv Chains 3STR beat out the extra 1.8acc & 6.3 attack on Fortitude torque?


    Or should I have both builds and use Zucchetto + Chain for merit targets and Fort+Ada for higher evasion targets?


    Obviously Nhead + Kubira bead is best and it's only a matter of time before getting those, but I'm curious which of the two combos I have access too right now would work better.
    Probably get a proper Sea Gorget and use Askar head untill you can get Hecatomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Whats a good TP Build for a 64MNK? Right now i have

    TM.+2/None/None/SmrtGrnde
    Empress/Chiv/Merm/Merm
    Scorpion/Horo/Rajas/Jaeg
    Ame+1/Brown/Rep.Sub/Seir.Hab.

    I can think of, Voyager, Och.Kote, Snp/tor ring... Tiphia? anything i'm missing?
    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Pcc
    Strike Subligar
    Fuma
    and you covered the rest.
    PCC is better, but spec. are better than chiv chain still and they are a heck of alot cheaper oh and super ribbon better empress at that level really unless need evasion til sallet anyways, and Cross-Counters/Retaliators for weapon ideally anyways.

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    NQ/HQ Haubergeon vs Hecatomb Harness for Raging Rush and Guillotine?

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    I'd go with Haub for RR (dex for crits); I think Heca for Guillo though? Not a drk though, so not feeling too confident in that judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfknight View Post
    PCC is better, but spec. are better than chiv chain still and they are a heck of alot cheaper oh and super ribbon better empress at that level really unless need evasion til sallet anyways, and Cross-Counters/Retaliators for weapon ideally anyways.
    just saying, cross counters arent better than TM hooks+2. they are only better if you tank or solo, i.e when you actually counter.

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    Yeah because soloing while relying on counters rather than EVA is so cool.

    TM+2 have less delay so yeah go with those.

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    For main handing as BLU/NIN and self-SC Darkness:

    Perdu Hanger vs. Erlking's Blade with DMG+5 ACC+6 M.ACC+4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suit and Tie View Post
    NQ/HQ Haubergeon vs Hecatomb Harness for Raging Rush and Guillotine?
    haub always for RR unless aggressor and zahaks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustaf the Voidbringer View Post
    For main handing as BLU/NIN and self-SC Darkness:

    Perdu Hanger vs. Erlking's Blade with DMG+5 ACC+6 M.ACC+4?
    Pretty much a wash. Magic ACC isn't so clear as to weather it'll make your SC take full effect X amount of times. The ACC on the other hand, is higher than Perdu, so if you're lacking ACC, use the Erlkings Blade. Btw, do you have this Erlking's blade or is this just theoretical?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Pretty much a wash. Magic ACC isn't so clear as to weather it'll make your SC take full effect X amount of times. The ACC on the other hand, is higher than Perdu, so if you're lacking ACC, use the Erlkings Blade. Btw, do you have this Erlking's blade or is this just theoretical?
    Theoretical, sorry. Mine is +3DMG but with the same ACC and M.ACC. I'm probably gonna go with Perdu in that case then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdkuser View Post
    just saying, cross counters arent better than TM hooks+2. they are only better if you tank or solo, i.e when you actually counter.
    eh I leveled mnks years ago and was told then they were better, I never did math for 3 dmg/3 acc vs -25 delay/10 att, I know they sure were fun using counterstance in pts where I could get away with it.

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    DRG Q:

    TP in Askar Korazin+Pole Grip or Zahak's Mail+Rose Strap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunz View Post
    DRG Q:

    TP in Askar Korazin+Pole Grip or Zahak's Mail+Rose Strap?
    i was wondering the same myself.

    i assume askar will win unless you've got a dex heavy tp set (askar hands/aurum feet/love torque/cuch/rajas/thunder(?)ring etc...)

    decided it wasn't worth the hassle getting the 1-2 items i was missing so i still tp in homam and just use askar body/pole grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chen View Post
    i was wondering the same myself.

    i assume askar will win unless you've got a dex heavy tp set (askar hands/aurum feet/love torque/cuch/rajas/thunder(?)ring etc...)

    decided it wasn't worth the hassle getting the 1-2 items i was missing so i still tp in homam and just use askar body/pole grip.
    Askar Body + Pole Grip

    Zahaks+Rose doesn't even enable a true 6-hit build. As for which is better on damage, it depends on your ACC.

    4% DA + 12ATT v 5STR 10DEX 3% Crit

    For TP purposes, the former will win if you don't need the ACC from the DEX.

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